A good man to put you up if you were stuck
The medals that are purchased are not of the same quality also. They look exactly the same but not same carot gold
They are noticeably lighter too
Much like Kilkenny in 1798
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Rightly so too.
I have heard about this factor.
Still you were good to turn up for training all year.
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Joe Delaney formerly of the FAI and Waterford FC has passed away. RIP.
Delas dad. The lad that got stung by George the Greek apparently.
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He played a key role in bringing Jack Charlton to Ireland.
That George The Greek lad was some conman.
https://twitter.com/Sportsfileray/status/1281896495235706880?t=S2q7jTZYFbROLWBioM0E8g&s=19
Maybe one for the older heads but wasnât there some controversy over charltons appointment over Bob Paisley
There was indeed. Paisley was lined up but lads who were supposed to vote for him changed their mind. It was probably all for the best. Paisley would of probably torn his hair our whereas Jack got the Irish psyche almost immediately
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Classic Paddy.
"The end of the Eoin Hand era was approaching and as results worsened the Irish football fans fell away in ever increasing numbers. The smallest ever crowd for an Irish international match occurred on the 8th August 1984. Less that 6,000 fans turned up at Dalymount Park to watch Ireland and Mexico play out a meaningless 0-0 friendly. The FAIâs coffers were bare and Irish international football was in disarray.
Former FAI President, Des Casey, suggested that there was a need to really shake things up and look further afield for the manager to replace Eoin Hand. He had been impressed by the success of the Northern Ireland team that had qualified for the 1982 and 1986 World Cup Finals. Northern Ireland had been managed by the great Billy Bingham who was based in Stockport in England.
Casey had contacted Liverpool FC to enquire about the availability of Bob Paisley, who had recently stepped down as Liverpool manager. Casey was told that Paisley was not, nor would be, available. The FAI Council agreed with Caseyâs idea about appointing an English-based manager, thereby making it easier for the manager to get to see the Irish players in action more regularly.
At the latter end of 1985 Des Casey and Tony OâNeill (The Doc) headed over to Manchester to interview potential Irish managers. Ironically the first person they met was Jack Charlton in the former Excelsior Hotel. Next up was Ex-Manchester United player, Paddy Crerand in the Midland Hotel. The FAI duo then met a former Everton manager Gordon Lee, followed by the ex-Northern Ireland player and former Arsenal manager Terry Neil. The interview tour continued with meetings with nine-time capped Theo Foley, Celtic great Billy McNeill, and finally Johnny Giles who had moved back to England. Back in Ireland they also interviewed Liam Tuohy, Paddy Mulligan and Jim McLaughlin.
At the FAI Council meeting on a Friday in February 1986, at 80 Merrion Square, a short list of just three names â Charlton, Tuohy and John Giles â was considered for appointment to the position of Irish manager. As it went to a vote, Casey said that ââŚanother person who shall be nameless ⌠brought in Bob Paisley from nowhere.â Other accounts suggest that the nameless person was working at the behest of Casey who learned, after the shortlist had been finalised, that Paisley had changed his mind and was interested in the job. The late introduction caused uproar amongst the 19 man council and battle lines were firmly drawn. On the first vote Paisley received nine votes and the other candidates received three votes each. As President Casey would only get to vote if there was a tie between two candidates. Casey was just one vote short of getting his man but unfortunately for him, and Paisley, he couldnât cast his vote yet.
A second ballot was held to eliminate a candidate and Liam Tuohy lost out. On the third ballot the votes were: Paisley 9; Charlton 5; Giles 4. This meant that the next ballot was a straight call between Paisley and Charlton. At this point Casey must have been applying the spit and polish to his casting vote that would surely have seen Bob Paisley become the next manager of the Republic of Ireland. Emotions were running very high in the chamber and the events of the evening had led to a ââŚgrowing mood of bewilderment and hostility about the surreptitious nature of the introduction of Paisley.â according to author Paul Rowan. When the fifth and final ballot results were tallied it was clear that a Paisley-ite had defected to the Charlton camp. The final result was 10-8 in Charltonâs favour. Charlie Stuart of the now-defunct Irish Press identified the defector as Colonel Tom Ryan, the Irish armyâs representative with the FAI. And so it was that Jack Charlton, who received less that 16% support in the first ballot, came to be the manager of the Irish national soccer team.
Jack Charlton did not have any real expectations that he would get the job and could not be contacted by the FAI following the meeting. Consequently the FAI held a press conference to announce that Charlton would be the next Irish manager without being certain that he would accept the job.
Charlton found out that he had the job from a journalist friend and former international colleague, Jimmy Armfield. Armfield had succeeded where the FAI had failed, he tracked Charlton down to a hunting lodge in Cloverdale in Yorkshire and gave the somewhat disbelieving Charlton the news. Armfield also gave the FAI Charltonâs phone number so they could contact him to confirm the news.
During the following FAI press conference Des Casey neglected to mention Bob Paisleyâs late candidacy for the position. For most Irish people the first they heard of Jack Charltonâs appointment was when Gay Byrne announced it on RTEâs Late Late Show. The news of the appointment was greeted by near silence"
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Good old Ireland.
Iâm surprised that there wasnât an Archbishop on the panel.
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Imagine turning down Paisley one of the most successful managers of all time. For Charlton an absolute journey man manager. Out of pure spite.
Now maybe it was for the best. We will never know. But tis fairly classic Ireland.
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We do know. Bob Paisley got ill and itâs unlikely he would have been able to continue past 1990 at the latest, probably 1988. I recall one journalist, it might have been Brian Reade, telling of how he went to Bob Paisleyâs house in late 1989 to meet the man himself and Paisley was already in very sedentary mode.
Paisley would have been 71 by the time of Italia '90. Managers have tended to go into their 70s especially at international level in more recent years but back then it was much rarer.
Itâs mad to think but Jack Charlton was only 60 when he retired form the Ireland job. That wouldnât be considered especially old for an international manager nowadays, you might be expected to go on managing for another decade.
Charlton was the right choice because he was younger, was highly motivated and had a definite idea of how he wanted to play which worked, and which in truth, Ireland needed.
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Put 'em under pressure was the closest weâve ever had to our own footballing identity in a way that other countries have.
Time to get back to it.
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To use the Johnny Giles phrase âthe game hasnât changed, Billâ, Iceland played worse hoofball than Ireland did under Jack Charlton and prospered. They were appalling to watch but they knocked England out of a European Championship and reached a World Cup finals, which, for a country of under 400,000 people which is known primarily for volcanoes, cod, bad banks, Bjork and lending its name to an English supermarket chain, is a pretty big deal.
We donât have the volcanoes and Bjork but we have the bad banks and our football team is a cod.
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Rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat
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This reminds me of the Only Fools and Horses where Mike sells stew to Denzil for a pound and sells the very same thing to a yuppy for ÂŁ2.75 calling it âBoeuf bourguignonneâ.
âPut em under pressureâ is the stew and âgegenpressâ is the boeuf bourguigonne.
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