Six Nations 2009

[quote=“The Puke”]That would mean that:
Wales 4 wins
Ireland 3 wins
france 3 wins
Scotland 3 wins
England 2 wins
Italy 0 wins

Reckon it will be close enough this year, think the scots will go well at home but struggle on the road, while this current English team are very poor…

Although a lot can depend on team selections and injury also…Take Martyn Williams and one or two out of the welsh side and they couls struggle, same for Ireland if O Gara, O Connell or O Driscoll get injures[/quote]

I think Wales will win it quite easily .Fair enough the french are unpredictable and can always turn it on but i dont think any of the rest are up to much. Ireland will probably get wins against England and Italy only.

Its like Eddie never left…:mad:

Ireland Squad V France

Backs:
Tommy Bowe (Ospreys)
Girvan Dempsey (Terenure College - Leinster)
Gordon DArcy (Lansdowne - Leinster)
Keith Earls (Young Munster - Munster)
Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock College - Leinster)
Shane Horgan (Boyne - Leinster)
Robert Kearney (UCD - Leinster)
Geordan Murphy (Leicester)
Brian O’Driscoll (UCD - Leinster)
Ronan O’Gara (Cork Constitution - Munster)
Tomas O’Leary (Dolphin - Munster)
Peter Stringer (Shannon - Munster)
Paddy Wallace (Ballymena - Ulster)

Forwards:
Rory Best (Banbridge - Ulster)
Tom Court (Malone - Ulster)*
Stephen Ferris (Dungannon - Ulster)
Jerry Flannery (Shannon - Munster)
John Hayes (Bruff- Munster)
Jamie Heaslip (Naas - Leinster)
Marcus Horan (Shannon - Munster)
Denis Leamy (Cork Constitution - Munster)
Donncha O’Callaghan (Cork Constitution - Munster)
Paul O’Connell (Young Munster - Munster)
Mick O’Driscoll (Cork Constitution - Munster)
Malcolm OKelly (St.Marys College - Leinster)
Alan Quinlan (Shannon - Munster)
David Wallace (Garryowen - Munster)

Ireland A Team Squad v England Saxons

Backs:
Isaac Boss (Ballymena - Ulster)
Darren Cave (Belfast Harlequins - Ulster)*
Ian Dowling (Shannon - Munster)*
Gavin Duffy (Galwegians - Connacht)
Ian Humphreys (Ballymena - Ulster)
Keith Matthews (Buccaneers - Connacht)
Eoin Reddan (Wasps)
Jonathan Sexton (St. Mary’s College - Leinster)*
Andrew Trimble (Ballymena - Ulster)

Forwards:
John Andress (Exeter)
Neil Best (Northampton)
Ryan Caldwell (Dungannon - Ulster)*
Bob Casey (London Irish)
Sean Cronin (Buccaneers -Connacht)
Cian Healy (Clontarf - Leinster)*
Bernard Jackman (Clontarf - Leinster)
Shane Jennings (St. Mary’s College - Leinster)
John Muldoon (Galwegians - Connacht)
Mike Ross (Harlequins)*
Donnacha Ryan (Shannon - Munster)
Sean OBrien (Clontarf - Leinster)

A.N. Other to be added to the squad

*Denotes uncapped player

Link.

No Cave, no Reddan and yet we have feckin Stringer, Horgan and a pile of other old age pensioners.

Disappointing to see the likes of Stringer, Horgan, Mal O Kelly, Mick O Driscoll and Girvan Dempsey retained but i suppose he could be giving the old hands one last chance to prove themselves(or at least I hope so)

Reddan, Cave, Donnacha Ryan and Cian Healy would have every right to be disappointed not to be in the squad

The Ireland A vs Saxons is on TV and should be a cracker, two very strong squads.

Just as long as Stringer, Horgan, Dempsey etc aren’t started ahead of the young stars I won’t be too pissed.

The exclusion of Cave is startling really. Fail to see how Caldwell hasn’t got in at least ahead of O’Kelly also. These two along with Humps, Reddan and Healy can feel very unlucky not too have made it. Trimble and Reddan are the only real regulars to be demoted. Think Kidney is a good coach but he has been way too conservative here.

Stringer instead of Reddan?

That is a strange one.

Odd decisions there. Thought Reddan was overrated around the time of the last world cup but he’s underrated now.

Cave and Humphreys are unlucky too. Disappointing conservatism.

[quote=“therock67”]Odd decisions there. Thought Reddan was overrated around the time of the last world cup but he’s underrated now.

Cave and Humphreys are unlucky too. Disappointing conservatism.[/quote]

But humphries was named in the A squad to begin with rock…

think he is just pointing out the folly of it puke. as i said before if these were leinster/munster players being excluded there would be uproar. caldwell, humps and cave really should be in there.

The 27 will be cut some more, would be happy enough if Dempsey, Horgan, MOD and Quinlan fecked off. Mal and Stringer on the bench though. Wouldn’t be a terrible 22 by any means. Cave is the big absence imo.

Possibly Wallace/BOD center combination?

[quote=“Turenne”]The 27 will be cut some more, would be happy enough if Dempsey, Horgan, MOD and Quinlan fecked off. Mal and Stringer on the bench though. Wouldn’t be a terrible 22 by any means. Cave is the big absence imo.

Possibly Wallace/BOD center combination?[/quote]

I’m disgusted. And we’ll get the usual, wedon’t see them in training shit. Shane fucking Horgan.
Larry - In fairness, ye are been ridden here.
DK is clearly shitting himself of pissing off Leinster.

It kills me to say it, but MOD in front of Ryan and Caldwell is backward.

MOD and Horgan might/probably will be cut though, and in that case it would make some sense having the likes of Ryan and Caldwell with the A squad rather then sitting on the bench, if even getting that far.

This team…

Kearney
Bowe
BOD
Wallace
Earls/Fitz
ROG
TOL

Heaslip
Wallace
Ferris
Munster Front Five

…would be pretty decent to me.

from rte.ie

France head coach Marc Lievremont is sweating on the fitness of two players ahead of the gathering of his 23-man squad for a week of preparation for the RBS 6 Nations opener against Ireland on Saturday.

Lock Sebastien Chabal came off with a shoulder injury less than half an hour into Sale Sharks’ victory over Worcester Warriors in the Guinness Premiership yesterday.

And Toulouse prop Benoit Lecouls hurt his neck in his side’s Top 14 defeat at Biarritz yesterday.

Lecouls’ injury is the more pressing concern for Les Bleus, although both forwards are expected to link up with the rest of the squad at France’s training base in Marcoussis this evening.

Sixteen of the 23 players in the party were named as starters for their clubs yesterday.

“Lock Seb Chabal.”

Fuck off.

Cheer up Danny at least you are banging Kelly Brooke

Danny Cipriani will not feature for England against Italy on Saturday after being dropped down to the Saxons squad.

The move has been made by manager Martin Johnson to allow the fly-half, who was dropped for England’s final autumn Test against New Zealand, to get some match practice.

The 21-year-old will line up alongside scrum-half Harry Ellis in the Saxons side that takes on Ireland A in Dublin on Friday night.

It means Leicester’s Toby Flood now seems certain to start at number 10 for England at Twickenham. Former Tigers team-mate Andy Goode has been added to the Elite Player Squad.

Game time
“Harry and Danny will spend this week with the Saxons as they prepare to play Ireland A on Friday,” Johnson said.

"Both players remain in my plans for the RBS 6 Nations, but I would like to see them get some game time with the Saxons.

“Harry benefited from playing with them last week, and I will be in regular contact with Saxons head coach Stuart Lancaster during the course of the week.”

Goode, who can be called up in the week of a Test because he falls outside of the RFU/PRL agreement, is one of three players to be drafted in.

Gloucester wing James Simpson-Daniel and uncapped Saracens prop Tom Mercey have also reported to training.

The duo will provide cover for injury doubts Harlequins’ Ugo Monye, who is struggling with a back problem, and prop Tim Payne of Wasps, who has sore abdominal muscles.

Johnson is due to name his starting XV to face the Italians on Tuesday

Cipriani is starting to look like another overblown Sky Sports product.

speaking of overblown sky sports products…saw Ollie bartley playing for Gloucester on saturday…whatever happened to his England career??..he was meant to be the next best thing when he was with Barff…last time i heard of him before the weekend was for being up in court charged with bursting some lad at a wedding…

I would agree with you but you also have to take into account that less than a year ago he suffered a potentially career threatening injury…Since he came back he doesn’t look the same player…He was superb for England against Ireand last year in the six nations…He is still only 21

Hes been harshly treated enough IMHO. Hes a decent player and a decent kicker but I dont think he has been forgiven for the assault, hasnt gotten much of a chance since. Id rate him ahead of Flood anyways who is lightweight and indecisive.

Some kick in the hole for Cipriani, bad enough being dropeed, but to see Andy Fat fucker Goode being brought into the squad ahead of you. Dear fucking jesus Johnson what are you playing at.

If he doesnt fancy Cipriani at 10 surely to fuck he would be a decent impact player to carry on the bench to cover 10-15?!

Nah dont agree with this at all.

Cipriani is a massive talent, hes a big lad, great pace, great balance great vision. he is going through a rough patch at the moment with his kicking both out of hand and place kicking. I think it is a poor reflection on all his coaches that he has been blocked down so much, it should be an easy thing to sort out, but it seems to have affected his confidence big time.

One of the few hyped No 10s to come to Thomond and do the business.