So, who's striking today? Which Side are You On

And you’re to be taken serious because of what exactly?

Licking arse…weak trolling or a bit of both?

Because I didn’t make that idiotic claim would be a start, pal.

Are the train and Dublin bus drivers going out in support?

Have you ever had an original thought in your head?

You’ve failed to flesh out that.

Look here you imbecile.

You claimed you would sack all the hierarchy at RTE & the HSE. Would you invite in a few lads from Job Bridge to take these organisations over?

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Jobsbridge was disbanded nationally 12 months ago…is it still being used on pig farms in Cashel?

It was disbanded mate.

You’re going on ignore from now on because you’re boring the bollix out of me…weak repetitive scutter coming out of your posts.

Following me around isnt getting you the likes you crave…so do yourself an internet favour and fuck off out of it.

@tallback, there’s no point in discussing anything with the Higgins enjoy but you’re smart enough to know better. @Juhniallio has nailed it. The history of privatisation of public services is disastrous. The presumption that private companies are more efficient is a fallacy. The idea that efficiency is the be and end all is also poorly thought through. One of the main reasons BE is where it is is poorly thought out piecemeal privatisation of profitable routes.

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I feel a bit sick when I have to agree with you but you are correct. Batt, Mrs. Batt and the Battettes won’t be passing any BE picket. And yes, due to the rural nature of our dwelling we do use the bus. Not me because I drive but the rest of the family regularly use the bus. BE management are cunt. Lord Ross is another cunt.

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+1 the whole point of public service is to provide a full service not just a profitable one

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The “history of privatisation of public services is disastrous” is one of the funniest statements ever made on here.

When Telecom Eireann controlled all telecommunications, people waited weeks for their lines to be installed and paid exorbitant fees for using these services.

There are thousands of examples at national and local levels of it working.

So too is saying privatising everything, and not thinking it through clearly, is just great. Handing a monopoly over to private hands isn’t the smartest idea.

But the point here is about costs. BE’s are too high and salaries are out of whack with private ones. The company is not sustainable.

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Oh look, it’s Hugo Chavez!

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Think he posts as Geoffrey Bycott now

I can’t believe @Tim_Riggins interacted with @The_Most_Infamous on this matter for so long last night, it was almost like he was carrying out a public service of his own. The man who sees FG as the root of all evil in Ireland, and FF as the saviours. You couldn’t make it up.

He believes the common man can run RTE or the HSE better than professionals.

What we need in BE is Liam Sheedy, to head up a committee, to pick a new CEO.

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We know that makes sense. :+1:

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Those are absolute statements which I think is incorrect. There have been successes and failures in both the private sector delivery and public sector delivery of services. On the public sector delivery there are huge issues whereby the companies ultimately become run for the benefit of the staff rather than the customers - at the public’s expense. The state, through its various political parties and civil service (also heavily unionised and with similar issues) have struggled to ever wrestle control back toward the benefit of the public. The only times that they have managed to do this is with opening the sectors up to competition. Aer Lingus, Telecom Eireann, ESB - the list goes on and on.

Of course there have been issues with privatisation - I think those are covered by two main areas - insufficient regulation or enforcement of regulation, particularly around employment law. The second is bait and switch tricks like the waste whereby local councils outsourced the service but didn’t outsource the revenue base with it. In the case of waste, the costs were rising substantially over the last decade anyway as European directives impacted on landfill costs etc.

In summary - I strongly believe in public subsidies for essential public services. However, I strongly believe that in the vast majority of case there should be an element of regulated competition and this is the way to deliver the best value to the public, who are the ones paying for it!