I went this year to the football, bit of a farce alright, they should be back on Paddys day and the club finals should be in December.
[quote=“north county corncrake;109352][QUOTE=KIB man”]I thought your geneology was from Roma gypsys? 
this is laughable. They have the same history and geneolgy despite their forefathers having lived in Ireland 130 years ago - (3/4 generations later) than 1st generation Irish people?
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at a guess id say people have been in ireland 7000 years - of the 7000 years they have shared 6850 of them - including St Patrick, Brian Boru, The English invading, O’Connell, The vikings, newgrange,grainne mhaol, the flight of the earls,oliver plunkett, the boyne ,christianity coming to Irelandetc etc etc etc - then 150 years ago our ancestors were rich enough to sty- theirs wernt & you write them off because of a twist of fate[/quote]
The same argument could make Barrack Obama Irish.
[quote=“KIB man;109367][quote=north county corncrake”]
The same argument could make Barrack Obama Irish.[/quote]
the same argument makes James Connolly Irish - Are you KIB denying James Connolly his Irishness?
[quote=“Mullach Ide”]Without splitting hairs Crewe Alexandra would be the only professional club in Crewe, which is a town, not a province.You will never see Munster listed as Munster Rugby in any media outlet.The official site for the ERC website just lists Munster as such on their fixtures list whereas it also lists Gloucester Rugby and Ulster Rugby.It’s the media etc. who have created this brand, the fans just follow suit.My point wasn’t about entirely about rebranding, my point was that Munster Rugby is now a professional rugby club, not an amateur representative side. They don’t represent Munster as a province, they represent Munster Rugby and should be referred to as such.[/quote]Of course they represent the people of Munster, just cos they went pro means fuck all from a supporting point of view. It makes Munster much more marketable in a global sense, but they still represent the people of Munster. Just like Barca represent a huge majority of Barcelona, New England Patriots represent 3 different states in the states.I have to say i don’t really have a problem with Bandages support of Celtic or the fact he has more interest in them than the National side. I’d say there are thousands like him. I mean is he supposed to put every single Irish team ahead of Celtic, like say the 4x 400 metre relay team, or the Bowls team, or whatever the fuck?
A bastion of sense and truth.
Barcelona is a City, New England Patriots are a franchise, they do and their fuck represent 3 states, they can be moved if it suits the owner as many NFL teams have been.
Munster Rugby is a professional club that has it’s base in Limerick with a secondary one in Cork.
anybody can support who they want but a lad supporting a Scottish team should not be suggesting a lad supporting an english team with the same passion is ‘stupidity’…they are both the same fan…only difference is the reasons they use for convincing themselves that they have some affiliation to their particular team…
Agreed.
agreed
[quote=“north county corncrake;109374][quote=KIB man”]
the same argument makes James Connolly Irish - Are you KIB denying James Connolly his Irishness?[/quote]
Would James Connolly have considered himself Irish I wonder? A socialist and a Scotsman of Irish descent. I would say he cared less about about Irish independence than about improving the horrific conditions that people lived in back in 1916 not just in Ireland but in his home country also.
Anyway we are going off on a tangent here.
Is Stephen Ireland coming back?
Who does Stephen Ireland support?
his granny…
[quote=“Mullach Ide”]Barcelona is a City, New England Patriots are a franchise, they do and their fuck represent 3 states, they can be moved if it suits the owner as many NFL teams have been.
Munster Rugby is a professional club that has it’s base in Limerick with a secondary one in Cork.[/quote]
Your right about new england, they actually represent 4 states, my bad.
As someone who lived there for a period of time i can confidently say they do represent those people, well thats what the people believe anyway. NFL clubs move (very rarely by the way) if they don’t have the support of the locals, that certainly will never happen with the 4 major sporting organisations in New England, the Patriots, Red Sox, Bruins and the Celtics.
Nothing else you say is either a counter argument or makes much sense in the context of this debate. Yes Barca is a city, and Munster has a base in Limerick and Cork (both in Munster by the way) and is a professional organisation. None of this is news to me.
Himself, his bird & his kids.
[quote=“KIB man;109401][quote=north county corncrake”]
Would James Connolly have considered himself Irish I wonder? A socialist and a Scotsman of Irish descent. I would say he cared less about about Irish independence than about improving the horrific conditions that people lived in back in 1916 not just in Ireland but in his home country also.
Anyway we are going off on a tangent here.
Is Stephen Ireland coming back?[/quote]
what about devalera? an american
thomas clarke- an englishman?
Jim larkin - an englishman
you question their Irishness too?
Tell that to the people of LA
[quote=“caoimhaoin”]
Nothing else you say is either a counter argument or makes much sense in the context of this debate. Yes Barca is a city, and Munster has a base in Limerick and Cork (both in Munster by the way) and is a professional organisation. None of this is news to me.[/quote]
The basic premise of my point is that Munster Rugby is not Munster Interprovincial side, nothing more nothing less. So their fans are Munster Rugby, the club, fans not Munster fans.
Are you on about the Dodgers? Because if you are you got it wrong. The Dodgers went to LA from Broklyn. The Raiders moved to Oakland because there was a massive population there with no team, whereas in LA UCLA and Sourthern Cal are the big attractions from a Football point of view, and were getting bigger crowds than the Raiders. There was protestations, but not enough, so they moved. Mouch of LA Raiders followers couldn’t afford to really support them, and there wasn’t enough of them.
Ok. Your point? It still doesn’t mean that “Munster Rugby” as you call it doesn’t represent the people of Munster, especially the people who like a game of Rugby, either to play or watch. Any sport in the world can’t do anything about the people who don’t like that sport now can they?
[quote=“north county corncrake;109409][quote=KIB man”]
what about devalera? an american
thomas clarke- an englishman?
Jim larkin - an englishman
you question their Irishness too?[/quote]
When have I ever questioned Ireland’s patriot dead.