Stick hurling: Parental Guidance advised

That tipp lad Hutler on the ditch did a piece on it recently, blames the fact lads arenā€™t playing senior club

Exactly my point.

Those games really meant something in the mid 2010ā€™s. Big crowds, build up etc. Minor games on Wednesday nights were similar to a lesser extent.

Since the change, nobody really cares.

Thereā€™s a case to be made that 17 year olds playing senior club probably helped them develop.

Think 2015 was the end of that which funnily enough ties into my argument that lads born after 1998 arenā€™t ready for it anymore.

There needs to be an U22 at this stage. Cork have a shadow/development squad to try bridge the gap between U20 and senior atm. Id imagine others have as well.

I saw a lad who was playing for the Dublin minors in 2019 struggle to make any kind of an impact in a junior e championship match in the height of last summer. He had all the skill but no cut or nous to him and his man despite being less fit and less mobile didnā€™t have to do much to handle him, was just more aggressive.

Maybe he wasnā€™t too interested in the day but you would think at that level a fella who can hold his own at county under 17 should be causing rack.

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Itā€™s not fine.

The tackle has been hijacked & the rule book ignored.

Itā€™s as simple as that.

Every coach & IC team are guilty of it.

To say otherwise is to highlights oneā€™s stupidity.

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And the idiots in Croke Park are not helping. Tinkering with rules that should be left alone to justify their existence instead of focussing on proper enforcement of existing rules.

There is actually no depths that wanker wonā€™t go to to defend Kiely & Co?

:rollseyes:

Over 100 posts from lads, each of who could do with a belt of a Hurley

Enforce the rules that have always been there properly.

Co Management teams know the rules but have been given free reign to bend these to suit their game plans under a guise of fast flowing hurling.

The amount of idiots who simply donā€™t know or understand the rulebook is laughable.

KK were the first modern team to twist the rules of tackling to beat the short passing Cork team.

Tipp then introduced S&C in an effort to match KK in 2009/10.

Tbf, the last team to break through trying to play without contact as such were Clare but that was aided by the absence of KK & Tipp early that season.

Iā€™m all for conditioning and strength, Iā€™m all for scores galore but rules are there for a reason.
Just because size & illegal tackling help a team to win doesnā€™t make it fair & legal.

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Incredible game

tbf that team played within the rules. I didnā€™t like that style. I think it came from Newtownshandrum and the Oā€™Connors, short handpassing game moving the ball upfield at high speed. Back then I was hoping for a change in the handpass rule. But then, Iā€™m old school. I yearn for the days of the centre half back (centre back is a modern designation) launching it downfield to drop on the full back and full foward and they swinging on it as it drops and may the best man win!!!

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Galway will end up doing that multiple times this year

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I thought Limerick were badly prepared and very lucky to get the draw and subsequent extra time.

Were well bate then in extra time.

Few young lads did make a good impression. Tough on them with the year that was in it in fairness too.

It was Clare/Kinnerk who pioneered the spare arm tackle which is now part of the game though. Worked well in 2013 but were reffed fairly harshly on it after that. Limerick seem to be having a similar issue with their tackling technique.

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Really?

People (Cork) were complaining about that in the early 2000s

Kk were at it for a while before that Iā€™d have thought, hence Cody banging on about ā€œmanly hurlingā€

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Maybe but Kinnerk very much brought it to the fore and the swarm/spare arm tackle especially from forwards harrying was a huge part of the 2013 success and most teams followed suit. Refs then became more accustomed to it and Clare got penalised for a lot of soft frees from it in the years after.

Kilkenny were more a team to play in the physical edge though and it was as much bodies on the line and hit hard/dictate the physical terms and push the boundary of what was acceptable more so than the subtle stuff with the spare arm.