Stillorgan

An excellent rant. You would do well to find a more soulless place than Stillorgan ‘Village’. What you are saying is that, what was left of the old village was razed to the ground to build a carpark? A place so dominated and designed for the convenience of cars couldn’t really be considered a village in any conventional sense.

Lads trying to ‘save’ Dundrum are equally deluded. The old Shopping Centre resembles something from Soviet Russia. At least Dundrum has a Main St though. Unlike it’s neighbor up the Kilmacud Road. Changing Main St Dundrum to a one way road was a step in the right direction. But the place needs a serious face lift.

Considering the cost of a an average Semi D in the vicinity of either place. You’d imagine that the nearby ‘villages’ wouldn’t be such eyesores.

Sandyford Village always seemed tucked away from all the development around it. Has this changed? Its 10 years at least since I was in the Sandyford House. The area all around it was ballooning but there was still a sml village feel to it. And maybe Stepaside too to a latter extent until the high rise apartments got close to it.

It is still nice but my point is more that it changed dramatically in the last 25 years. It had acres of fields around it. You were travelling on country roads beside it.

Pretty much. That demolished two long rows like this for it.

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Dundrum Main Street has come on heaps and could get even better if they go on with redeveloping the old shopping centre. The council changing the traffic was great for it too, but there is a campaign to bring back all the roads.

The council did it in Blackrock too and the Main Street has improved a lot.

Agreed. Blackrock Main Street has really come on since Covid. Dundrum could too.

Getting the cars off road in Dundrum would be a gamechanger. The one way and no through road has helped a lot

Mark Keenan

June 07 2024 05:00 AM

We’ve long heard how the drink-driving laws have killed rural pubs in Ireland. But what about the housing crisis wiping out city and suburban licensed premises?

Pubs were once such a fundamental pillar of Irish society that we applied them universally as stepping stones when giving people directions.

We’d use them as markers along the way, telling that enquiring driver how to get to such and such a pub and direct them on from there.

Let’s take an example. If you were telling someone how to get from Milltown to Dundrum in Dublin a decade ago, you’d tell them to head up over the Milltown Bridge and past the Millrace Pub, then straight on, keeping Ryan’s Arbour House on your right, and then past Uncle Tom’s Cabin to Dundrum Village straight ahead of you through the crossroads.

But times have changed. Today, the Millrace Pub is a hostel, having closed its doors to be converted for residential accommodation.

The next pub along, Ryan’s Arbour House, was recently sold and is also closed. It had a guideline price of €1.75m-plus.

It stands on a 0.37 acre site with ‘neighbourhood centre’ zoning and is likely to be redeveloped accordingly.

On then to Uncle Tom’s Cabin, which is also set for redevelopment after being bought for circa €3m by Galway developer Padraic Rhatigan and financier Stewart Doyle.

The pub was sold by the Collins family, who operated it as a licensed premises since the 1890s.

The site is already zoned for residential development and a planning application is pending.