Talk to joe 2016

[caoimhaoin]

Oh ffs.

Read the sports gene. Thats a religious guy who is a sports scientist. Maybe he will adjust your thinking.

The environment within which those 2 players grew up helped them become who they are. Along with genetics.

[Nembo_Kid]

I don’t rely on other people’s opinions to form mine like you clearly do. I use my own intuition for that and it has served me well. It has shown you up to be the two bit spoofer you are on countless occasions.

[alf_stewart]

Could someone give a breakdown of the last 100 odd posts please. Has someone found a cure for cancer?

[Sidney]

I’ve developed mild dyslexia recently. If I get cancer, should I leave it to my God or my dog?

What if I don’t have either a God or a dog?

[tazdedub]

@alf_stewart

Could someone give a breakdown of the last 100 odd posts please. Has someone found a cure for cancer?

Kev has.

[caoimhaoin]

Meet the dogs who can sniff out cancer - CNN

Can Dogs Smell Cancer? - InSitu

Stress: A Cause of Cancer?

[Joe_Player]

Ah ffs

[myboyblue]

Joe are you the lad who is hiding the cure for cancer from the world?

[Sidney]

@Nembo_Kid

Maradona broke pretty much every rule in how a footballer should prepare yet he was able to excel at the top level of the game pretty much injury free for the majority of his career. He just had it, he was born with it.

It was nature with guys like Ronaldo and Maradona. You talk about lads getting injured because they don’t prepare properly which is utter tosh. You have guys like Maradona who throw the rulebook out the window and never got injured and then you have lads who take every precaution they have to protect themselves but still fall foul.

It’s just nature, something you don’t accept. Some things are outside of your control and even if you prepare yourself as best you can there is nothing you can do.

Let’s extend the principle in a very logical way.

Some people smoke all their lives and don’t get cancer. Some people lead very healthy lives yet get cancer and die at a young age.

But clearly Kev thinks there’s no luck involved.

[Joe_Player]

I wish

[Sidney]

@caoimhaoin

The google search brings up the exact same spiel from several different governments and cancer charities etc saying evidence is weak. And if they say its weak then you can be sure its plentiful.

If they had said evidence is plentiful, that would mean it’s weak, right?

[Raylan]

Can hippies get cancer? They wouldn’t be stressing over much you’d think.

[caoimhaoin]

How could luck play a part in cancer?

Possibly if a company happens to be moved to your town and it poisons you in some way. I would think thats bad luck as it would almost certainly be outside your control.

Other than that i would think vast majority of stuff is a mix of genetics (you could argue luck there in a way, although its a stretch) and lack of looking after yourself.

And while we all deal with stress in different ways i think all stress is self controlable.

[caoimhaoin]

Well smoking?

Or stressing about the planet.

Or having to do something.

[Mullach_Ide]

@caoimhaoin

How could luck play a part in cancer?

Possibly if a company happens to be moved to your town and it poisons you in some way. I would think thats bad luck as it would almost certainly be outside your control.

Other than that i would think vast majority of stuff is a mix of genetics (you could argue luck there in a way, although its a stretch) and lack of looking after yourself.

And while we all deal with stress in different ways i think all stress is self controlable.

When a seven year old boy dies of a brain tumour, is that stress or not looking after himself?

[anon7035031]

Sadly for your argument, luck plays the most important role in cancer according to the most extensive study on the subject published in Science (“Variation in cancer risk can be explained by the number of stem cell divisions” by Tomasetti and Vogelstein).

All cancers are caused by mutations to DNA resulting in abnormal cell division. There are three causes; random mutations which can happen to anyone at any time (luck), environmental factors that cause mutations, and mutations that are inherited. The study referenced found that 2/3 of cancers were due to random mutations (luck) and the remaining 1/3 split between environment and inherited.

For the scientifically illiterate (basically everyone posting so far), I came across an excellent analogy in an article from Johns Hopkins. Consider a car journey. The chances of having an accident depend on the condition of your car (your genes), the condition of the roads you are on (the environment), and the duration of your journey (your age). In short the most significant factor is the duration of your trip. The longer you drive the more likely you are to get in an accident, the longer you live the greater the chances you will develop cancer.

[Fitzy]

They did in their hole. The church told us the earth was flat, scientists pointed out that this was rather silly, scientists are good like that.

[Julio_Geordio]

@Fitzy

They did in their hole. The church told us the earth was flat, scientists pointed out that this was rather silly, scientists are good like that.

Myth of the flat Earth

[myboyblue]

Thats a clamping. Ditzys entire belief system comes crashing to the ground.

[anon61956325]

Of course luck has nothing to do with it ffs.