[QUOTE=âcaoimhaoin, post: 1068697, member: 273â]You are the dickhead now comparing a 3 year olds death to that of a grown adult who was antagonizing a whole religion.
Your faux outrage really isnât washing[/QUOTE]
In fairness kev these Islamist fucks have previous for beheading Christian children. The ra never deliberately targeted children.
You might as well be comparing the Ra to the SS as these Islamist animals.
Iâve already said that at a very broad level there are some similarities. But thatâs the case with any conflict: the fact of the conflict itself will naturally resemble other conflicts. It doesnât make them equitable or mean that universal generalisations can be applied to all conflicts.
There is something particularly galling about an attack on the press. Itâs heightened in this instance for two reasons:
This wasnât mainstream press representing the status quo of society, the society that these terrorists were trying to attack. Its very purpose is to question the structure of that society.
This is probably emotive crap but France has been a vanguard of democracy and freedom of speech in Europe for a long time, and played important dissenting roles even as recently as the Iraq conflict. There are enormous social problems in France, but attacking a media outlet that is one of Franceâs biggest critics is sickening.
[QUOTE=âcaoimhaoin, post: 991699, member: 273â]
I hope Iran drop a nuke on these cunts some day and their little pet mickee is with them.[/QUOTE]
This is Kevâs understanding of anything to do with Islam/Middle Eastern affairs. Itâs instructive.
Obviously their timing was off. I hope they fired their health and safety guy cos just relying on supposed adequate warning would never have cut it on a risk assessment
[QUOTE=âfucked out, post: 1068734, member: 1495â]In fairness kev these Islamist fucks have previous for beheading Christian children. The ra never deliberately targeted children.
You might as well be comparing the Ra to the SS as these Islamist animals.
With Belfastâs streets full of afternoon shoppers, the IRA detonated 20 devices in 70 minutes on Bloody Friday, creating mayhem, killing nine, and injuring 130 others. Two devices accounted for all the deaths. A car bomb at Oxford St bus station killed four Ulsterbus employees, while another parked outside a row of shops killed two women and a young schoolboy.
february 4, 1974
Britainâs trains were on strike so a coach was hired to carry servicemen and their families off for a holiday. A 25lb bomb was smuggled on to one coach in luggage. It exploded on the M62 motorway, killing 12, wiping out the entire family of Corporal Clifford Houghton, his wife Linda and sons Lee (5) and Robert (2).
[QUOTE=âRocko, post: 1068736, member: 1â]What am I denying?
Iâve already said that at a very broad level there are some similarities. But thatâs the case with any conflict: the fact of the conflict itself will naturally resemble other conflicts. It doesnât make them equitable or mean that universal generalisations can be applied to all conflicts.
There is something particularly galling about an attack on the press. Itâs heightened in this instance for two reasons:
This wasnât mainstream press representing the status quo of society, the society that these terrorists were trying to attack. Its very purpose is to question the structure of that society.
This is probably emotive crap but France has been a vanguard of democracy and freedom of speech in Europe for a long time, and played important dissenting roles even as recently as the Iraq conflict. There are enormous social problems in France, but attacking a media outlet that is one of Franceâs biggest critics is sickening.[/QUOTE]
I agree with your points 1 and 2. The terrorists who carried out todayâs atrocity however believed they were attacking, what was in their eyes, a legitimate target and that they had been provoked, they do not share our opinions of a free press, to put it mildly.
My point is that once you elect to support any armed political cause that engages in terrorist acts you cannot then just go pick and choose which particular acts are to your taste and which are not because you feel guilty about them. Either you 100% in or you are only codding yourself
[QUOTE=âLazarus, post: 1068748, member: 286â]I agree with your points 1 and 2. The terrorists who carried out todayâs atrocity however believed they were attacking, what was in their eyes, a legitimate target and that they had been provoked, they do not share our opinions of a free press, to put it mildly.
My point is that once you elect to support any armed political cause that engages in terrorist acts you cannot then just go pick and choose which particular acts are to your taste and which are not because you feel guilty about them. Either you 100% in or you are only codding yourself[/QUOTE]
And yet there isnât an army in the history of the world who you could argue were worth supporting on all their wars, let alone every act in every war. I donât think itâs a black and white issue.