More than half of all muslims in Britain want homosexuality to be illegal. Nearly half think wives should always âobeyâ their husbands.
Well done Mr. Trump, he really is on the side of civilisation, what with his $110 billion deal to sell arms to the Saudis.
No, but given the method, target, and timing it would be a shock if it was anyone except ISIS.
Wikileaks have put out documents showing that they have an explicit strategy to âeliminate the grayzoneâ
As in make any coexistence between muslims and mainstream society impossible. Part of this is launching âspectacularsâ during elections, when tensions are already high. Thatâs what the killing of the policeman during the French presidential election was about according to to the Terror studies centers. A victory for Le Pen would be great for them, since they want the complete alienation of muslims from Western society.
Sure half the posters on this forum think that.
Spare a thought also for the children and parents who survived but had to walk through the wreckage to leave. The scenes they witnessed are beyond belief.
Iâm aware that innocents have been repeatedly blown limb from limb in car bombs, suicide bombs and drone and airstrikes across the middle east, no more deserving, and suffering no less than the poor mites in Manchester.
33% of Anglicans and Other Christians think homosexuality is âalways wrongâ.
http://www.brin.ac.uk/figures/attitudes-towards-gay-rights/
Given the relationship between socioeconomic rank and attitudes (lower strongly predicts more intolerant), and that 45% of muslims live in bottom 10% of deprived areas, that number is not as out of line as some people try to suggest.
Read this article in notorious lefty mag the Telegraph to get a better understanding of this argument.
"But comparing Muslims with other Britons, it concluded that âmuch of the difference on socio-moral opinions was due to socio-economic disadvantage and high religiosity, both factors which predict social conservatism among all Britons and not just Muslims.â
In other words, Muslimsâ moral and social attitudes, the old-fashioned and illiberal attitudes that worry so many people arenât so very different from those of other poor and badly-educated non-Muslims.
Many commentators and politicians approach integration as a cultural question, arguing that more should be done to persuade British Muslims to accept âBritish valuesâ. Perhaps weâd be better off taking an economic perspective, accepting that a better aim is making them better off."
I immediately thought of the Beslan school attack when I heard it. Not on the same scale but just as perverse.
The problem now is that ISIS have given a flag to any loan extremist who wants to carry out an attack. Previously you would have had the IRA acting in cells, units etc, which agents could infiltrate but thereâs no need for an organised network as such. A few you-tube videos posted up from 1000âs of miles away is enough. No counter intelligence is able to defend against that. When you plan on killing yourself in the attack, it eliminates a huge amount of potential advance intelligence. No need to steal an unconnected car, plot an escape route, etc.
Itâs completely different now, both in the tactical sense like you describe, and the wider strategic sense as well. The IRA wanted to force negotiation and compromise. ISIS donât want any negotiation or compromise. The IRA committed a number of atrocities, but they also focused on economic or military targets and gave warnings in order to minimise civilian casualties. The whole point of the ISIS campaign is to cause such revulsion and horror that there is no room for moderate opinion. In a way this also shows their weakness though, because they simply donât have the capacity to attack hard targets either.
If you read the first few paragraphs of that link I posted earlier (https://archive.is/VE0jj), their main threat is moderate Islam. In general they were disgusted by the Arab spring because other voices emerged with a different perspective on how the plight of muslims could be addressed:
âBut the fiery zeal of the broken Muslim Ummah began to cool by the hazy events known as âthe Arab Springâ as well as the lack of a body representing Islam (the KhilÄfah) then. The Muslims saw the same aforementioned movements, âscholars,â callers, sects, and even the apostate tawÄghÄ«t get involved in âsupportingâ the cause of the oppressed Muslims in ShÄm. And so confusion spread, and the withering of the grayzone was slowed or almost halted. Once again, the heretical call to the gates of Hellfire â the religions of the tawÄghÄ«t â was answered by many of the ignorant.â
I think that shows how they will lose in the end. Ultimately ordinary muslims in the middle east rejected them and fled westward rather than live under them. Only in the absolute extremes of war and bloodshed will anyone turn to them. Without that theyâll wither and die.
What are you counting as a âhard targetâ?
I would have thought with a little planning, a suicide bomber can attack most targets.
Was it those lads behind the Old Trafford dugout?
Loads of minorities are on the lower end of the economic scale but they arenât using nail bombs on children.
Minorities?
In Britain they would be.
HorrificâŠ
Iâm choking with the anger here