Which attacks do you think they could have prevented? Either of the two where a lunatic picked up a knife and got in a car, knocked some people over and then got out to stab people.? Or the big bomb at the end of the concert?
Youâve obviously never been in Ennis at 2am.
Heâs safer where he is.
We all know well what youâre at here.
If someone said Boston was caused by Obama being weak on terror youâd have kittens. Indeed Iâm guessing you werenât here screaming about Francois Hollandeâs cuts in France after Paris and Nice, as he was a Socialist President.
You wonât be here criticising Corbyn for saying that people who travelled to Syria and come back saying they support ISIS should be allowed back in because of free speech.
You wonât criticise Corbyn for condemning the Anglo Irish agreement, as it doesnât suit your agenda.
Instead youâll put your fingers in your ears.
Youâll claim nuance on every topic but beneath it all thereâs an agenda.
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Manchester certainly, given that the perpetrator was a known Islamist fighter who was allowed passage to and from Libya, was known to police, and had been flagged numerous times by the public as being a threat.
And at least one of the London attackers was known to MI5 and starred in a television programme preaching extreme Islam.
Counter-terrorism experts such as Professor Michael Clarke, who has been an advisor to the House of Commons Defence committee since 1997, say the attacks could have been prevented.
https://www.thecanary.co/2017/06/06/expert-counter-terrorism-said-last-two-attacks-potentially-avoided/
Now, do you think a government which has cut over 20,000 police officers, 1,300 armed police, plans further cuts, and a PM who told police who warned of the consequences of these cuts that they were âscaremongeringâ and âcrying wolfâ, have questions to answer?
3rd attacker was a Moroccan Italian from Bologna whoâd been prevented from flying to Syria by the Italians.
Butt, attacker no1, had recently worked as a trainee customer service assistant in Westminster tube station and had access to the tunnels under Parliament. You could not make some of this stuff up.
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May has more questions to answer than Hollande.
The Paris attacks were mainly planned in Belgium.
Hollandeâs approval ratings went down to 4% after the attacks there and he knew there was no point standing for re-election.
Yet this talking parrot of a British PM is laughably trying to claim that sheâs âstrong on national securityâ, backed up by a fanatical Tory press that would still eulogise her if she took a shit on the pavement outside 10 Downing Street live on TV, much like you still would.
In your answer there, you basically admit by your deflections (Again! Have you ever posted and not deflected?!) that May has serious questions to answer, which she has not answered.
If Corbyn was PM, had made the cuts May made and these attacks had happened under his watch, people like you would be baying for his blood. And in that hypothetical situation, youâd have a point.
There is no hypothetical as regards May. This is reality.
What the fuck the Anglo-Irish agreement has to do with this, I havenât a clue.
Yet again, more classic bait and switch from Timmyanne Conway when you havenât a leg to stand on.
Labour had bankrupted Britain by the time they were booted out in 2010. That might explain some of the recent austerity.
Nice to see labour changing their tune on police funding though. In 2015 they said they would be hapoy with a 10% cut in police budgets.
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This beggars belief.
They forgot the 5th of November it seemsâŚ
Remember, remember!
The fifth of November,
The Gunpowder treason and plot;
I know of no reason
Why the Gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot!
Itâs actually the Tories that have the historical record of bankrupting Britain.
Since World War II, Tory governments have borrowed on average 31% more per year of of government than Labour governments, adjusted for inflation.
Where did I say she doesnât have questions to answer?
Iâm pointing out your clear agenda here. Focusing on police cuts. Ignoring the fact that in Corbynâs past, he has supported things like the 1986 sympathising protest for Paddy Magee and other terrorists who went to jail. That he was against the Anglo Irish treaty. You brush that under the carpet and claim that he was was a noble peace maker. Utter tosh, he was an anti imperialist crank and own up to that fact.
Regarding Hollande, his governments made enormous cuts to the French armed forces and security services when he took over.
You know well that Charlie Hebdo, Paris and Nice were much more than just âBelgian planned attacksâ, but sweep sweep away.
Those attacks were the fault of numerous factors. A failure of multiculturalism, military intervention, unchecked immigration, a failure in the welfare state, people travelling to war zones and being allowed back, budgetary cuts, a failure to confront Islamâs violent texts et cetera.
Yet Iâd imagine youâll take issue with some of those in the UK context as it doesnât suit your little agenda here.
Corbynâs stance on Ireland was entirely legitimate. It just shows the paucity of what youâre arguing that you think shouting âIRAâ advances it somehow.
I said the Paris attacks were mainly planned in Belgium. They were.
If you think Hollande was right to fall on his sword, it doesnât make sense that you think May should be elected having presided over massive cuts to police that have clearly compromised Britainâs security.
They are the result of numerous factors.
The major ones in a UK context, much like in France, being:
a lack of a stake in society, which will only be exacerbated by another Tory government
military intervention - again the Tories will just plough on with the same failed policies
people travelling to war zones and allowed back - the Tories actually facilitated and cultivated such Islamist fighters for their own ends as regards Libya
the Tories cuts to police - again, the Tories will only make these worse
failure to confront Saudi Arabia and its spreading of Salafism/Wahhabism while continuing to sell billions of pounds worth of arms to it - again, the Tories will do nothing to change this.
Iâm talking about this century
There was a little thing called the global financial crash, mate.
The last Labour government made the mistake, as most others did, of adopting a lax regulation policy as regards the financial sector.
It would likely have been considerably worse under the Tories.
The facts show that Labour governments have, since World War II, been more economically responsible than the Tories.
the big bomb for sure, people were ringing up the police asking them to do something about the assailant but I guess they needed the patsy to fight Assad
the one where the guy was in a documentary âmy next door neighbour is a jihadi that will engage in a terrorist attackâ , that should have been a clue imho
Is this the guy who was on TV? Or the other guy? If he hadnât shown up as a threat and had all the right documents behind him, what more could they do? The whole thing is fucking nuts.
The guy who was on the TV.