Speaking of questioning peopleâs motives, like Francis did about Sam, youâd have to wonder if this is an attempt by Francis to be âcontroversialâ and try to increase his media profile as a result and he just totally misjudged the subject.
He seemed to fail to understand that Sam has most likely cost himself a huge amount of wages by coming out.
Sam plays flamboyantly? What the fuck does that even mean? Yeah, his pink skirt was a dead giveaway.
[quote=âSidney, post: 904472, member: 183â]Youâre forgetting Frannoâs performance at Twickers in '94, when the Irish Independent memorably dubbed him âFranno the raging bullâ.
Itâll be interesting to see if any u-turn Franno has to perform over these comments is as big a car crash as Mick Doyleâs final u-turn.[/quote]
Safe bet the good ol SIndo will row to his aid next weekend.
[quote=âcluaindiuic, post: 904475, member: 258â]Speaking of questioning peopleâs motives, like Francis did about Sam, youâd have to wonder if this is an attempt by Francis to be âcontroversialâ and try to increase his media profile as a result and he just totally misjudged the subject.
He seemed to fail to understand that Sam has most likely cost himself a huge amount of wages by coming out.
Sam plays flamboyantly? What the fuck does that even mean? Yeah, his pink skirt was a dead giveaway.
âIâm a big [American Sports fan] so Iâll follow his career. I didnât see the draft, so I dunno who picked himâ - What an absolute spoofer.[/quote]
That was my first thought too. Francis just looking to get his name out again.
[quote=âSidney, post: 904472, member: 183â]Youâre forgetting Frannoâs performance at Twickers in '94, when the Irish Independent memorably dubbed him âFranno the raging bullâ.
Itâll be interesting to see if any u-turn Franno has to perform over these comments is as big a car crash as Mick Doyleâs final u-turn.[/quote]
Franno was born on the biggest day in the Irish rugby calendar - 17 March. He turns 50 next month and what a fitting present it would be if his alma mater could deliver title number 68 on the big day. They used to talk of Alexander of Macedonia weeping at 33 because there were no more worlds to conquer and Eric Bristow having similar issues at 27, Franno had that problem on his 18th birthday as he starred for the original (and still the best) Willow Park dream team.
[quote=âcluaindiuic, post: 904475, member: 258â]Speaking of questioning peopleâs motives, like Francis did about Sam, youâd have to wonder if this is an attempt by Francis to be âcontroversialâ and try to increase his media profile as a result and he just totally misjudged the subject. He seemed to fail to understand that Sam has most likely cost himself a huge amount of wages by coming out.
Sam plays flamboyantly? What the fuck does that even mean? Yeah, his pink skirt was a dead giveaway.
âIâm a big [American Sports fan] so Iâll follow his career. I didnât see the draft, so I dunno who picked himâ - What an absolute spoofer.[/quote]
are you an idiot?, seriously?
The book deal, TV appearances, Gay icon, even if he never makes it in the NFL he has set himself up now for life by this.
some of you fuckers are so naive its unbelievable, again if youâre gay, great, so what?, why the public announcement?
[quote=âmickee321, post: 904546, member: 367â]are you an idiot?, seriously?
The book deal, TV appearances, Gay icon, even if he never makes it in the NFL he has set himself up now for life by this.
some of you fuckers are so naive its unbelievable, again if youâre gay, great, so what?, why the public announcement?[/quote]
Would you ever fuck off you stupid cunt.
[quote=âmickee321, post: 904546, member: 367â]are you an idiot?, seriously?
The book deal, TV appearances, Gay icon, even if he never makes it in the NFL he has set himself up now for life by this.
some of you fuckers are so naive its unbelievable, again if youâre gay, great, so what?, why the public announcement?[/quote]
Would you ever fuck off you stupid cunt.
[quote=âmickee321, post: 904546, member: 367â]are you an idiot?, seriously?
The book deal, TV appearances, Gay icon, even if he never makes it in the NFL he has set himself up now for life by this.
some of you fuckers are so naive its unbelievable, again if youâre gay, great, so what?, why the public announcement?[/quote]
I said wages, specifically talking about what he will earn initially from his first NFL contract.
The SEC Defensive player of the Year has been drafted typically in the first half of the first round [Pick 1-16] in the last 10 years. Sam is projected as a third round [Pick 65-96] and coming out has contributed to that.
The difference between what pick #16âs first contract is potentially worth [assuming they play out the full contract] and what pick #96 is potentially worth is about $6m.
[quote=âcluaindiuic, post: 904562, member: 258â]I said wages, specifically talking about what he will earn initially from his first NFL contract.
The SEC Defensive player of the Year has been drafted typically in the first half of the first round [Pick 1-16] in the last 10 years. Sam is projected as a third round [Pick 65-96] and coming out has contributed to that.
The difference between what pick #16âs first contract is potentially worth [assuming they play out the full contract] and what pick #96 is potentially worth is about $6m.[/quote] @mickee321 well clamped here.
I remember in the run-up to that Ireland-Wales match in 1992 that Franno had a chest injury of some sort, and the speculation was that he may might have to wear a protective bra to play.
its the first constructive post from the mob with some reasoning and an argument laid out and i will tip my hat to @cluaindiuic 's knowledge of the data.
however, i do not agree that this individualâs career will be detrimentally affected by this announcement, even he never makes it in NFL he has set himself up reagrdless, and if he does go on to have a brilliant career as a footballer then i am sure he will use this wisely during and more importantly after his career is done.
saying his âcoming outâ will impact his position on the draft is scaremonering and something one would love you to believe
[quote=âmickee321, post: 904568, member: 367â]its the first constructive post from the mob with some reasoning and an argument laid out and i will tip my hat to @cluaindiuic 's knowledge of the data.
however, i do not agree that this individualâs career will be detrimentally affected by this announcement, even he never makes it in NFL he has set himself up reagrdless, and if he does go on to have a brilliant career as a footballer then i am sure he will use this wisely during and more importantly after his career is done.
saying his âcoming outâ will impact his position on the draft is scaremonering and something one would love you to believe[/quote]
Sam is the joint number one defensive player in college footballâs number one conference. The hype about this announcement and the quality of the player involved make it inevitable that he will be drafted (although itâll be interesting to see what pick he is - people are saying heâd be expected to be a third or fourth round pick - Iâd have thought higher given what Iâve already stated about his ability).
The true test of how effective his coming has been will only be seen if and when there are further openly gay players and how they fare career-wise. Because they wonât have been the first, it may make it easier for teams to steer clear of them and for the homophobia which will still likely exist to be brushed under the carpet.
[quote=âManuel Zelaya, post: 904494, member: 377â]Franno was born on the biggest day in the Irish rugby calendar - 17 March. He turns 50 next month and what a fitting present it would be if his alma mater could deliver title number 68 on the big day. They used to talk of Alexander of Macedonia weeping at 33 because there were no more worlds to conquer and Eric Bristow having similar issues at 27, Franno had that problem on his 18th birthday as he starred for the original (and still the best) Willow Park dream team.
I probably am been a bit tough on him.[/quote]
Alexander was a sodomite as well Manuel.
[quote=âmickee321, post: 904568, member: 367â]its the first constructive post from the mob with some reasoning and an argument laid out and i will tip my hat to @cluaindiuic 's knowledge of the data.
however, i do not agree that this individualâs career will be detrimentally affected by this announcement, even he never makes it in NFL he has set himself up reagrdless, and if he does go on to have a brilliant career as a footballer then i am sure he will use this wisely during and more importantly after his career is done.
saying his âcoming outâ will impact his position on the draft is scaremonering and something one would love you to believe[/quote]
You are unbelievably stupid. If he doesnât make it in the NFL then this is just 15 minutes of fame. In ten years time there will be a documentary on him in a âwhere is he nowâ type doc, if he fails to cut it at pro football. Probably living out a normal life working in whatever field he studied.
If he makes it after one season it will more or less be forgotten he is gay, as it should be and heâll be judged purely on his football ability.
His ability to make money will always be based on him being a good football player, not being gay. If he was not good at football weâd never hear of him.
Francis saying 1% if the sports population being gay is so incredibly out of kilter itâs unbelievable. Apparently a few of the gay community have plenty stories to tell about AFL players in Melbourne, and Iâm sure itâs the same everywhere. They say itâs somewhere between 5&9% of men are gay, so 1 % of sports people itâs just a ridiculous comment, it wonât differ too much from the % of general population.
[quote=âSidney, post: 904472, member: 183â]Youâre forgetting Frannoâs performance at Twickers in '94, when the Irish Independent memorably dubbed him âFranno the raging bullâ.
Itâll be interesting to see if any u-turn Franno has to perform over these comments is as big a car crash as Mick Doyleâs final u-turn.[/quote]
Talks of Franno doing this to raise his profile or court controversy are well side of the mark. He was clearly uncomfortable talking about this when you listern back, he was almost squirming.
Completely at odds with someone who had a pre prepared plan to cause a storm.
[quote=âSpecial Olympiakos, post: 904656, member: 366â]Talks of Franno doing this to raise his profile or court controversy are well side of the mark. He was clearly uncomfortable talking about this when you listern back, he was almost squirming.
Completely at odds with someone who had a pre prepared plan to cause a storm.[/quote]
He made a silly mistake for somebody with media experience of saying what he was thinking
[quote=âSpecial Olympiakos, post: 904656, member: 366â]Talks of Franno doing this to raise his profile or court controversy are well side of the mark. He was clearly uncomfortable talking about this when you listern back, he was almost squirming.
Completely at odds with someone who had a pre prepared plan to cause a storm.[/quote]
you cant say he had a prepared plan to cause a storm, maybe he was speaking his mind.
i actually think he was half taking the piss throwing in the flamboyant thing tho, i laughed when i heard him saying it and knowing Franno as I do id say it may have been banter.
either way, his main point was why is this news? in 2014 why is it news that someone is gay? why do we need to read about it amid a media fanfare, ? what the fuck is wrong with the world?
the spoonfed mob cant see that tho
[quote=âmickee321, post: 904660, member: 367â]you cant say he had a prepared plan to cause a storm, maybe he was speaking his mind.
i actually think he was half taking the piss throwing in the flamboyant thing tho, i laughed when i heard him saying it and knowing Franno as I do id say it may have been banter.
either way, his main point was why is this news? in 2014 why is it news that someone is gay? why do we need to read about it amid a media fanfare, ? what the fuck is wrong with the world?
the spoonfed mob cant see that tho[/quote]
The reaction this morning of Ivanâs sidekicks was one of faux outrage. They found Frannoâs comments deeply offensive. Iâm offended by the existence of Ivanâs sidekicks Chris and Oisin but thats a different story.
