What do you mean?
Homosexuality was criminalised in this country until 1993. By extension prior to 1993, one would presume that ladies with such a disposition would not have been able to partake in the Tralee pageant. If the rule book for the pageant did not provide the requisite amendment post 1993, the other competitors would have good grounds for challenging last Tuesday’s result.
Homosexual acts were criminalised, not homosexuality. Gay men were the real target of that legislation and the act of sodomy was seen as the big no no.
And yet the Pogues, who had an album called “Rum, Sodomy and the Lash” once played at the Rose of Tralee festival in the 1980s.
Have the bookies paid out ?
There was a case in the early 1980’s that went to the High Court involving a then unmarried woman in New Ross, Eileen Flynn who was living with a married man (albeit one who had long since separated from his wife). Miss Flynn was a teacher in the Holy Faith Convent in New Ross. When Ms Flynn became pregnant the nuns dismissed her from her post because of her domestic arrangements citing that it was at odds with the moral ethos they wished to project in their school and the values they were trying to instil in their pupils. Miss Flynn lost in the High Court and the nuns carried the day.
If it was the case that homosexuality was against the ethos that the festival organisers of the Tralee pageant were trying to project, it would be interesting to see how the High Court ruling in Flynn v Holy Faith Convent would play out today if moves were made to reverse last Tuesday’s result.
[QUOTE=“Manuel Zelaya, post: 1006122, member: 377”]There was a case in the early 1980’s that went to the High Court involving a then unmarried woman in New Ross, Eileen Flynn who was living with a married man (albeit one who had long since separated from his wife). Miss Flynn was a teacher in the Holy Faith Convent in New Ross. When Ms Flynn became pregnant the nuns dismissed her from her post because of her domestic arrangements citing that it was at odds with the moral ethos they wished to project in their school and the values they were trying to instil in their pupils. Miss Flynn lost in the High Court and the nuns carried the day.
If it was the case that homosexuality was against the ethos that the festival organisers of the Tralee pageant were trying to project, it would be interesting to see how the High Court ruling in Flynn v Holy Faith Convent would play out today if moves were made to reverse last Tuesday’s result.[/QUOTE]
wtf is this gibberish?
Can anyone enlighten me, what is scissoring? After my last brush with an Internet search off tfk on my wife’s iPad, I’m reluctant to look it up again. I was told that the scissor sisters got their name from it, but never actually found out what it involved.
good south park episode about it
YouTube “South Park scissor me timbers”, I imagine that will bring up something relevant.
Who really cares?
[QUOTE=“Manuel Zelaya, post: 1006122, member: 377”]There was a case in the early 1980’s that went to the High Court involving a then unmarried woman in New Ross, Eileen Flynn who was living with a married man (albeit one who had long since separated from his wife). Miss Flynn was a teacher in the Holy Faith Convent in New Ross. When Ms Flynn became pregnant the nuns dismissed her from her post because of her domestic arrangements citing that it was at odds with the moral ethos they wished to project in their school and the values they were trying to instil in their pupils. Miss Flynn lost in the High Court and the nuns carried the day.
If it was the case that homosexuality was against the ethos that the festival organisers of the Tralee pageant were trying to project, it would be interesting to see how the High Court ruling in Flynn v Holy Faith Convent would play out today if moves were made to reverse last Tuesday’s result.[/QUOTE]
Given the stated support from the festival and her fellow competitors, unlikely i’d say. Also unlikely because, well, no one gives a shit Manuel. I think you’re on your own here. Though I am interested in what other competitions or institutions you would apply this logic to. The All Ireland Championship? Leinster Schools Rugby? The Observer Mace? The Catholic Church? You may have a problem there, as all of them have had and continue to have homosexuals active in them. The Catholic Church, indeed most western churches, seem to be rampant with them. Should we take it then that the ethos they were trying to project and instill in the faithful, that of homosexuality as a sin, is essentially a crock of unmitigated shite, because a significant percentage of clerics are raving queens?
See some cunt in the Sunday world yesterday was giving odds on who are next boyfriend would be, bet he feels like a cunt today
Why the need to bring the Catholic Church into all of this? Aren’t you the great enlightened liberal putting the boot into the Church from the far flung Antipodean corner of the British Empire you call home.
Chocolate Mice raised the entirely valid question yesterday, why the need to reveal she was homosexual after the pageant and not before. My reading of it is (a) if she did she wouldn’t have won if this was in the public domain beforehand or possibly (b) she may not even have been selected or allowed to take part.
what? the Oirish newspapers report on shit like this.
I wish I was back home in Qld
[QUOTE=“Manuel Zelaya, post: 1006363, member: 377”]Why the need to bring the Catholic Church into all of this? Aren’t you the great enlightened liberal putting the boot into the Church from the far flung Antipodean corner of the British Empire you call home.
Chocolate Mice raised the entirely valid question yesterday, why the need to reveal she was homosexual after the pageant and not before. My reading of it is (a) if she did she wouldn’t have won if this was in the public domain beforehand or possibly (b) she may not even have been selected or allowed to take part.[/QUOTE]
why do you care?
[QUOTE=“Manuel Zelaya, post: 1006363, member: 377”]
Chocolate Mice raised the entirely valid question yesterday, why the need to reveal she was homosexual after the pageant and not before. My reading of it is (a) if she did she wouldn’t have won if this was in the public domain beforehand or possibly (b) she may not even have been selected or allowed to take part.[/QUOTE]
Why should she have to reveal her sexuality before hand?
Would you give a lesbian the use of a car for 12 months?
Its her prerogative what she wants to reveal.
There are certain criteria to enter the pageant which are well publicised. There’s various age stipulations,. I don’t know if its still the case, but there was a long standing requirement that contestants be unmarried. Up until a few years single mothers weren’t allowed compete, an issue which attracted a lot of adverse press comment before it was lifted a few years ago. I don’t ever recall in the affirmative or negative hearing as to whether the rules of the competition set out a position as regards homosexuals competing.