You really dont have a clue. If you have a shit serve in tennis you are fucked. Simple as that.
Who did EPO Nadal draw in the first round?
Nadal has pulled out due to cramp in his little finger
Iām not on about a shit serve.
I am saying a big serve is absolutely vital in grass court tennis.
It is important to hard court tennis but not to the extent it is on grass.
On clay a big serve is not of great importance. Itās why the likes of Sampras and Federer had minimal impact on clay, both their games feed off their serve, when that is negated then it changes matters. Conversely Nadal is not a big server so is at a disadvantage of grass.
To win a grass court title without having a big serve is an absolutely remarkable feat like Agassi did in 1992.
Better off. Let this to the big boys.
@Cicero_Dandi relying on John Isner and Ivo Karlovic to back up his proposition that all you need at the Championship to prosper is a big serve. Heās refusing now to deal with the reality of the record of Isner and Karlovic at the Championship when the actual facts were put to him.
Youāre not dealing with the facts on Karlovic.
His best career performance is Wimbledon, the only slam he has made it to a QF in.
3 of his 8 career titles have been on grass despite grass being by the shortest tour of the calendar year by a considerable distance, lasting just 6 weeks and played in handful of countires - niche tennis that Karlovic excels in.
Karlovic, is he taking the piss.
A big serving donkey who excels on grass.
I think youāre taking the piss when youāre putting grass tennis on a pedestal when Karlovic is a type of guy who excels on it.
Tell me then how Murray who has the shittest serve of all the top players in top 20 has won wimbledon twice?
Well thatās just a blatant lie.
Murray has a bigger serve than Nadal for starters. Do you even know anything about tennis?
The weakest part of Murrays game has been his serve. Always has.
Yet he is 24th in the all time Aces list.
Nadal is 78th.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/stats/aces
Murray has a much bigger serve than Nadal. That is of far more value on grass courts.
Nadal 3,110 aces in 1,065 matches
Murray 5,472 aces in 806 matches
Are you going to stop spoofing now?
Heās bonkers! Sampras and Federer are apparently no good because they never prospered at the French Open. The GOAT has won 5 US Opens and 6 Australians. He even won that joke tournament at Roland Garros in 2009. Jimmy Connors, John McEnroe, Stefan Edberg, Boris Becker and Sir Andy Murray never won a French Open either.
Next heāll be telling us that sloggers like Yannick Noah, Michael Chang, Andres Gomez, Sergi Brugera, Thomas Muster, Gustavo Kuerten, Carlos Moya, Alberto Costa, Juan Carlos Ferrero and Gaston Gaudio who won their only Grand Slams in Paris and never got within an asses roar of winning in proper tennis were better players than Connors, McEnroe, Edberg, Becker, Sampras and Sir Andy.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/stats/aces
Out of the top 20 ace record holders on this list, only one of them has ever won and appeared in a French Open final - Federer*.
*Never beaten Nadal at the French Open.
Out of the top 20, you have 4 different Wimbledon champions - Federer, Sampras, Krajicek and Ivanisevic. You have a further 5 Wimbledon finalists - Roddick, Philipoussis, Raonic, Cilic and Berdych.
And these clowns are saying there is no correlation between having a big serve and success on grass courts?
Absolutely hilarious.
Ivo Karlovic made one solitary quarter final in 13 appearances at the Championship. Thatās not excelling in grass. Thatās journeyman status.
It is excelling on grass. Of all the surfaces he has appeared on, grass is the one he has done best on.
Why canāt you accept these facts?
The tournaments karlovic has won on grass is Nottingham. Which is an ITF event.
Why because he has won Nottingham a couple of times?
Isner has gone further in the french than at Wimbledon. So using your logic a big serve is a huge advantage on clay
Because Karlovic is a big serving, one dimensional giraffe and his game happens to be best suited to grass. I think this is kind of what you have been denying all morning.