The Anti-Rugby Football Thread

Would agree with that. The bandwagon really ramped up in 1990. But at the same time, no one really followed the soccer team with expectations that they would win all around them. The match in Rome in 90 was probably the pinnacle though.

The rugger buggers still using soccer as their defence :smile:
Soccer is big time. You simply can’t get away from it, it has to be brought up in every conversation about rugby. Unreal.

Rugby’s grass roots are significantly inferior to soccer when you look at playing numbers. Just because they are a top 8 team in the world does not make it an achievement. Top 8 in rugby is equivalent to top 150 in soccer.

I’d agree that comparing the national teams of Ireland in soccer and rugby isn’t a good comparison.

The national soccer teams of Ireland have virtually no Irish players, and are based in Liverpool and Manchester.

The Irish rugby team is made up of Irish players, playing in Ireland.

10 of the 14 players involved against Poland were Irish born. All of them had Irish heritage.

Relay similar stats about the West Brit rugby team.

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No, mate, they played last night against Rubin Kazan.

There were no Irish players.

Incorrect - answer the question posed.

Bandwagons are great, mate.

Really? Is that why they constantly chanted “You’ll Never Beat The Irish” and the team sang about “when we win the World Cup”?

I don’t ever recall the rugby supporters or team being anywhere near as deluded as that.

The old joke about the Eire soccer team used to go: “You’ll never beat the Irish, but they’ll never beat you.”

The Oirish were unbeaten at the 2002 World Cup.*

*According to your/Jeff logic

Eire were indeed unbeaten at that tournament, mate. Well spotted. Although despite the superb coaching of Mick McCarthy they still only beat the hapless Saudis, the worst team in the competition.

The rugby crowd can’t have it every way.

  • before the World Cup - “we’ve a very strong squad”
  • after the World Cup - “a few injuries and the unfortunate suspension of Sean O’Brien after some French lad got a deserved box killed us”

When they win they get all the credit. When they lose they get none of the flak.

You regularly see GAA and soccer managers badgered in interviews after bad defeats. Schmidt is on with tubrudy tonight and it will be a complete love in. “After such a poor start the players showed enormous courage and character to get back to within three points. Of course it was a pity Argentina, who are regularly hammered by the big three down south - then racked up twenty unanswered points but our players showed such leadership and determination to get themselves back into contention. Hopefully we can learn the lessons and take it into the Six Nations.”

No stern questions or a persistent line of questioning as to why they failed so spectacularly and underachieved yet again. He’ll get the kid gloves treatment whereas the likes of Martin O’Neill will be slaughtered should we fail to get past Bosnia.

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Incorrect. Others have brought up ‘West Brits’ and ‘no Grassroots, just a bandwagon’. It merits discussion when a group of lads go on and on about Italia 90 being the greatest Irish sporting achievement ever. If you want to talk about grassroots and reference the senior side, don’t rely on an event where few of the players learned the game or played here.

Rugby has had a grassroots, pyramid structure throughout its history in Ireland. That grassroots built facilities the grassroots of Irish football couldn’t and allowed football to use. Posh schools are grassroots too.

Were the members of the IRFU battalion from grassroots clubs when they got massacred by The Citizens’ Army in 1916?

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This is an anti rugby football thread. There have been numerous similar threads for the last few weeks. You, a person who doesn’t like rugby, are one of the top 5 posters on the Official Rugby World Cup thread.

You don’t see threads like this, in volumne or frequency, taking anti association football stances on predominately rugby forums or even GAA ones.

I’m therefore curious to who needs who here?

Eamonn DeValera, rugby footballer of some renown in his youth, was commanding troops just down the road from Mount Street

He executed Republicans, mate.

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I didn’t think my contributions to the thread were that good to be regarded as one of the top five contributers…

Were the thousands of GAA members and association football players who fought for the British in World War I from grassroots clubs, pal?

What was less expected was the chutzpah shown by their sideline reporter, Sinead Kissane, when she interviewed O’Sullivan.
Faced with an East Cork glare that looked capable of reversing global warming, Kissane twice asked the “reconsider your position” question and managed to secure a rather twitchy “No” from the Ireland boss.
“I take my hat off to Sinead,” grinned Glennon, who then indulged in the sort of nudge-nudge-wink-wink speculation with Trevor about the “reality” in the Irish camp that he no doubt would have condemned as wild speculation during his Dáil days.