Again, not the point. The media had no problem running stories about the likes of Seamie Quigley and McCarron in the past year or so. Why such a different reaction to OāBrien?
I donāt thInk he took it up the hole, pissing in a corner of a room is hardly Newspaper material*
*best wait until the Sunday World hits the shops on Sunday
OāBrien has a significantly higher media profile than either the aforementioned but his indiscretions have been ignored.
Why?
The media had no problems running negative stories on the Stokes and McClean on their personal lives in the recent past. Why not OāBrien?
Most people have pissed in odd places while intoxicated is probably a reasonable answer, pal.
So you think if this had been a soccer player or a high profile GAA player involved in an incident like this, in Ireland, after a high profile exit it from a major tournament, it also wouldnāt have been reported on by the media if it came into circulation?
Fucked if i know or care, pal. Thanks for asking though.
Bad state of affairs when a fella canāt piss on some young ones knickers and pass out on her table half naked and lads want it spread across the tabloids. There but for the grace of God.
Jayses Id love a night like that.
Joe.ie is the only site that would publish shit like whatsapp message and given itās owners thatās not likely to happen.
If it helps you, Iām pretty sure the death of Brian Murphy and the Anabelās trial, featuring four Blackrock College schools rugby players, was reported on in the media, although perhaps Iām wrong and youāll tell me it was swept under the carpet by them.
We are comparing the rage over this current team, to the treatment of Italia 90.
There are a large group of 30 something males who grew up with Italia 90 being the be all and end all. Greatest sporting achievement ever. They cannot get over the fact that it was a bandwagon and though they have remained true in support others have their heads turned. They talk about the grassroots now but hark on about Italia 90. Italia 90 had little to do with genuine Irish grassroots sport.
Instead of directing their ire at the wholly Ott Joe.ie press they take a scatter gun approach to rugby football. Refusing to show any appreciation for the fact that the bandwagon they jumped onto as kids was facilitate by the grassroots of Irish rugby football.
That Irish team deserved the accolades for their displays in Italia 90 and Euro 88 for that matter as they certainly punched above their weight. Irish rugby has provided capitulation after capitulation when it mattered, it really isnāt comparable and anyone 40+ should be able to acknowledge that.
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Well sadly few of them played their football here. Ever.
Grassroots sports though!
Stop talking shit about grassroots. The man that scored the winning penalty against Romania came from grassroots as did the man who saved the decisive penalty as did the man who equalised against Holland as did Paul McGrath āthe black pearl of inchicoreā who was the best player on the pitch in the WC QF against Italy.
Whoah, pal.
#drinktookoverandyoulost
7 out 11. 14 out of 22. British.
Grassroots?
Thatās what @Tim_Riggins would call a professional athlete
In all fairness to @Tim_Riggins there, heās not wrong about Italia 90. Arguments about the relative merits of the rugby and soccer teams aside and arguments about the relative ethnicity of both aside, anyone who has followed Irish sport for a very long time could only conclude that it was the first and greatest bandwagon in the history of Irish sport. Bear in mind that it was only 5 years after the summer of the moving statues and it will give you some idea of the extent to which it was possible to drag the Irish people along on a tide of mass hysteria. And dragged along we were. And every snake oil salesman in the 26 counties was in on the ruse from Arnold OāByrne to milkmen with Italia 90 bottles of milk and the ole ole merchants and every rank DJ in the country releasing a hooj Italia 90 tune. And lads who had never seen the inside of Dalymount moving heaven and earth to get to Palermo āfor the matchā. The template for all future bandwagons was set here.
That said I would have thought that the Italia 90 team (but more probably the Euro 88 team) was the finest team to represent the country in any sport and possibly the best coached as well.
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Why do straight lads have other lads in their profile pics like your man OāBrienā¦I find that very bizzare.
Tim, you are the only one going on about grassroots here. why the fascination with it? Itās like as if it is the only thing you are clinging onto, that the rugby is such a great organisation here because of its grassroots. And to be honest, you make it sound as if rugby is some sort of utopian sport where every child from every corner of the country can become an Irish legend, when in my opinion, itās anything but that.
Rugby is still built around selective schools and clubs. The way it is shaped right now, if you dont go to one of the specialised schools, or if you dont join one of the provincial or top ranking clubs youth academies, you can pretty much forget about ever making it. There are very few who make it without going through that process. Even Tadgh Furlong, you could consider one of those who made it, but he still had to join Clontarf and was on the Leinster academy for a long time before getting through. I think I have said it on here before, but I know of lads from Wexford who were on Leinster academies, and ended up giving up on it because of the closed shop nature and exclusivity of Leinster Schools cup players. Iām sure Leinster are trying to branch out and by having the regionalised branches of academies helps, but itās hard to get past the tradition of the old boys schools, not through any fault of theirs, itās just the way it is. Tradition is a good thing, but this tradition gives it pretty much a closed shop unless you can force your way into it.
Whats your definition of grassroots that you keep going on and on about? Because I see more work done at grassroots level in soccer than I do in rugby. Every little shitty village and cluster of houses across the countryside playing soccer every Saturday and Sunday morning. But yet the rugby sides is 4 clubs in the whole of the county, and a couple of schools who throw out a team for the sake of it. Your grassroots in Dublin or your school may seem the way it should be everywhere, but its far from it outside of rugby only areas. Yes, it is great that the majority, if not all of the rugby side can be players who have come all the way up through the IRFU system. But is that it? Why keep going about a sporting event from 25 years ago as if that excuses the actions of thousands of utter fucktards who were probably at the same sort of shit back then, and who would probably have annoyed the same people on here had a) we had internet, and b) had formed irrational and contrarian thoughts at ages of 5 to 15.
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