The assassination of JFK - conspiracy or lone nut?

[quote=“farmerinthecity, post: 865786, member: 24”]Ah - that’s not enough.

What are the CIA links to Oswald, Ruby etc?[/quote]

I don’t know, is that not one of the main tasks of the CIA, i.e. having executions carried out on their behalf without being directly linked to them?

Sure the CIA could have killed anyone then.

Exactly

They could indeed Farmer, but they had a reason to kill Kennedy.
Oswald was a patsy, nothing more.

[quote=“TreatyStones, post: 865779, member: 1786”]The CIA had Kennedy shot.

He wanted to disband them or at least seriously curtail their powers. They had previously had a free rein to go around and do as they pleased, they hated Kennedy for his more moderate stance on foreign policy and wanted him out of the picture.[/quote]
So who shot Kennedy then? Oswald? And was Oswald connected to the CIA? Was Ruby hired to silence Oswald? Who was hired to silence Ruby? Who was hired to silence the person that (didn’t) silenced Ruby?

I’m not that au fait the specifics of the operation, all I know is that the CIA organised the hit.

someone explain how ruby ended up so upset about JFK to end up shooting Oswald!?

Simple. He obsessively idolised Kennedy and thought he would be a hero for killing Oswald.

[quote=“TreatyStones, post: 865797, member: 1786”]They could indeed Farmer, but they had a reason to kill Kennedy.
Oswald was a patsy, nothing more.[/quote]
Lots of people have lots of reasons for killing lots of people.

The only compelling argument in the whole conspiracy theory thing is the difficulty of the shot. I don’t think L h o was even much of a sniper. If it was a conspiracy, I’m sure it must have been internally plotted, ie CIA .

The CIA and the mafia worked closely together on a number of jobs and both had reasons to want Kennedy dead, so the CIA initially entrusted the job to the Mafia who in turn sorted out the assassination with Oswald as a patsy.

Experts have been pouring over this for years and can’t conclusively prove a case either way, yet ye expect me to be able to.

It wasn’t that difficult. Oswald was a trained sharpshooter from his time in the US Marines. He was 88 yards away from Kennedy at the time of the first shot (which missed). The car was going at a very slow pace, no more than 20 miles an hour. He also had ample time to get the three shots away. At least 8.3 seconds and possibly even as long as 11 seconds.

The evidence overwhelmingly points towards Oswald acting alone.

It does, but apparently his training wasn’t all that, and his scores were mediocre with a rifle. I don’t usually buy conspiracy theories, but I reckon, with the gun he had, he’d have missed a small moving target 95 times out of a hundred, and I’d put nothing past the CIA of that era.

[quote=“Sidney, post: 865826, member: 183”]It wasn’t that difficult. Oswald was a trained sharpshooter from his time in the US Marines. He was 88 yards away from Kennedy at the time of the first shot (which missed). The car was going at a very slow pace, no more than 20 miles an hour. He also had ample time to get the three shots away. At least 8.3 seconds and possibly even as long as 11 seconds.

The evidence overwhelmingly points towards Oswald acting alone.[/quote]

Would sharpshooting not be a skill you would have maintain. I would imagine it would wane very quickly…

In the Marines his scores were excellent. With a similar rifle to the one he used on Kennedy he scored 48 out of 50 on a head size target from 200 yards. The car was moving meant almost almost in a straight line away from him. It wasn’t a left to right target which would have been more difficult to hit.

Slight correction to above, the fatal head shot (the final one) was the one from 88 yards. I’d imagine an 88 yard shot for Oswald was like Colin Ryan hitting over a free from 35 yards straight in front.

Class is permanent.

You lads are starting this conspiracy theory from the wrong end altogether.
People arguing the facts. Who told you the facts? The media? :rolleyes:

People are looking at this based on preconceived notions and then questioning minute detail, why not go back to the start and question the whole thing.

How do we even know Kennedy is dead?

[quote=“Julio Geordio, post: 866075, member: 332”]
How do we even know Kennedy is dead?[/quote]

My God…he’s right! :eek:

the government agents at the hospital wouldnt let the hospital staff carry out the post mortem, and ended up taking Kennedys body by threatening the hospital staff by holding them up against the wall with their guns out to release Kennedy to them.

Kennedy’s “body” also left the hospital in a different coffin to the one he arrived at where ever he went next in.

[quote=“Julio Geordio, post: 866075, member: 332”]You lads are starting this conspiracy theory from the wrong end altogether.
People arguing the facts. Who told you the facts? The media? :rolleyes:

People are looking at this based on preconceived notions and then questioning minute detail, why not go back to the start and question the whole thing.

How do we even know Kennedy is dead?[/quote]
How do we even he know he existed in the first place?