The away goals rule

I find it unfair and believe it should be scrapped.
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[]Many away teams still set themselves up very defensively and may look to ‘nick’ a goal.
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]Home sides can become cautious about the prospect of losing a goal.
[]Ties that are in the balance can be ended as a contest early due the away goals.
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]A goal is a goal, it should not be more valuable because it was scored at home or away.
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Rocko doesn’t understand the away goal rule. Maybe you could explain it for him.

Away goals count double. Therefore if Celtic draw 0-0 with Liverpool in the first leg at Celtic Park and the return leg at Anfield finishes 2-2, Celtic win the tie on a 4-2 aggregate scoreline.

Mac should dig out his quote from that time. He made an awful show of himself. I love the away goals rule and I think it adds another tactical dimension to cup ties

I always felt that the game should go to penalties if the tie is level after 180 minutes. Bit unfair that it still counts in extra time, if the away team nick a goal they are as good as through as the home team have to score twice, although the counter arguement could be made that the home team has home advantage for the extra time but ti isn’t really equitable

The playoffs of the lower divisions don’t use the away goals rule and it has thrown up some very exciting games and a few freak results/comebacks

Great post Totti. It’s a pet hate of mine and has been for a long team.

Even last night when Lennon brought McCourt on I was wondering why. Surely if we want to gamble on scoring we’d be far better doing so over there.

I know Ferguson’s United have made a virtue out of their away form in Europe defensively, and it has worked pretty well for them, but I really think a team that turns the tables and attacks more away from home will have a competitive advantage. It’s a brave call but for professional footballers who travel in luxury and are used to playing away in Europe the disadvantage of playing away should be more than offset by the additional value for those goals.

I completely agree that it ruins plenty of 2-legged ties and it’s overall contribution to the game is to encourage more caution.

Never mind

[quote=“Rocko, post: 617973”]
I know Ferguson’s United have made a virtue out of their away form in Europe defensively, and it has worked pretty well for them, [/quote]
Has it though? There are a lot of examples of Man Utd’s away goals strategy coming back to bite them.
95/96 v Rotor Volgograd
96/97 v Dortmund
97/98 v Monaco
99/00 v Real Madrid
03/04 v Porto

You could even throw in the game against Bayern in 2010.

There was an excellent article on this in The Blizzard, think it was issue zero.

I was going to rehash their argument as the basis of a knowledgable post but I see Rocko has taken the most relevant point from the article anyway.

For what it’s worth I think they should be scrapped,

I’ve had it up to here with yer ruueelllls!

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I meant to say in recent years. Ferguson was stung by those earlier results and as a result they’ve been extremely defensive away from home lately. I guess it may only be moderately successful but it’s hard to argue with their relative success in Europe of late.

In the games against Rotor Volgograd, Monaco and Real Madrid they didn’t concede away from home though and were undone by the sucker punch. I always think a 0-0 draw away in the first leg is a very over rated result, if you concede at home the pressure is really on you.

Didn’t know the individual scores but I’m not agreeing with his strategy at all. I was suggesting United as an example to challenge my theory but don’t intend defending it because I think it’s misguided.

It is a bit artificial. The team that scores more actual goals should go through. Hadn’t ever really thought about it, it has been in use for as long as I can remember. Does anyone know when the rule was introduced?

1970 - Celtic famously got through against Benfica on the toss of a coin on their way to the 1970 European Cup Final and away goals and penalty shoot outs were introduced after that. Ironically Celtic were the first victims of the penalty shoot out in the European Cup when they lost to Inter at Parkhead in the 1972 semi-final.

Thanks Sid

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/should-away-goals-rule-be-scrapped-why-it-might-be-time-50-years

@Cicero_Dandi - what’s your view on the away goals rule after tonight?

Still sucks mate.

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Don’t recall the new kid @Cicero_Dandi ever expressing a view on the away goal rule prior to last night.