The Beatles thread

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Would you have had favourite Ryan Moore moments posters on your bedroom wall as a teenager.

So you thought Ryan Moore was a musician or what?

Given you think The Beatles were shit, Iā€™d say thatā€™s true.

I like songs and I also like certain musicians.

People say footballers have terrible taste in music but I would dispute that. In the car at the moment Iā€™ve got The Corrs, Cher, Phil Collins, Shania Twain and Rod Stewart.

Andy Gray

I like some songs by the Britpop bands like UB40 and Def Leppard.

Thatā€™s because you grew up in an era where there were no good bands, or at least no bands good enough to be worthy of being anybodyā€™s ā€œfavourite bandā€. Some of us did not grow up in such an era.

I dunno where you got the idea I think the Beatles are shite.

Penney lane is one of my favourite songs.

I think there is great bands in my era. I think there is great bands in every era.

It is just odd the way every generation hates on the next generations taste.

A very popular ā€œunpopularā€ opinion of a lot of people (from what I can make out anyway) is that ā€œImagineā€ by John Lennon is shit.

That is not an unpopular opinion to have. Itā€™s just a very stupid opinion.

From what I can see the Beatles just werenā€™t a great live band.

They were a great studio band which is whatā€™s thrown a lot of modern musicians.

If you got any one of the other members of the Beatles to perform it Iā€™d imagine(pardon the pun) it would be shit.

Itā€™s probably because stadium tours and shows really only became a thing from the 1970s onwards. The Beatles split up in 1970

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Yeah I dunno

Is it on ā€œThe Best Of The Beatles?ā€

There have been some good bands in the 21st century. Doves are a good band. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club are/were a good band. The War On Drugs are a good band.

If there was a great band a lot more people would probably know about them.

I hate donā€™t hate the next generationā€™s music ā€œtasteā€. Most younger people now have to go backwards to get music taste because todayā€™s music is largely shit.

If thereā€™s a song which isnā€™t shit and is actually good, Iā€™ll like it. I like Boss Bitch by Doja Cat and I posted it up on the Smashing Tunes thread last week.

I always regret that Lonnie Donegan didnā€™t tour his music using the Zooropa stage set and crew. What could have been.

I listen to an awful lot of Luke Kelly, the Dubliners and the likes.

In fact judging by the smashing tunes threads Iā€™d say most people agree I have great taste in music.

Correct; most modern artists are using computer programmes and AI to generate music rather than paying session musicians to perform on albums. Itā€™s not real music

Gas cunts.

It depends what you think real music is. A lot of people thought acid house wasnā€™t real music because it wasnā€™t what they were into. It was faceless producers twiddling knobs. But it was real music. A lot of it was shit, and a lot of it was fucking brilliant.

My problem with todayā€™s music isnā€™t so much the technology used to make it. My problem is itā€™s almost universally shit.

I donā€™t particularly hold that against anybody. I read a comparison once of popular music to oil that made a lot of sense.

When oil came along, you just had to stick a spade in the ground and it would spurt out because there was so much of it available. The Beatles writing She Loves You was like that. It was wondrous because nothing like it had existed before and therefore it was a complete game changer. But it was the low hanging fruit. Three chords and a yeah yeah yeah.

As the oil was progressively taken out of the ground and deposits started to drop a bit, evil oil barons and their technicians had to get more innovative about how and where they got their oil from. But in reality there was still load of oil. In music the equivalent was the production era which started in earnest from the late 1970s/early 1980s. Production turned lads like Frankie Goes To Hollywood from Liverpool dole drawers into superstars. But they had to have the tunes the producers could work with. There were lots of tunes still there to mine.

Then when oil started to get into much shorter supply, you had to develop techniques to extract from shale and tar sands and stuff. You had to make engines much more efficient so they would use less oil. In music the tunes are now in very short supply. Everything has been done. Nobody can write She Loves You now. You couldnā€™t. You canā€™t. If was of its time. Even if you did write it, it wouldnā€™t be taken seriously by anybody, because thatā€™s just the way things are now. Shite like auto tune and AI and whatever other gobbeldygook they use are now de rigeur. Itā€™s mutton dressed as lamb. But thatā€™s not the real problem. The problem is lack of tunes.

After the headcases tried to derail the thing earlier Iā€™ve now facilitated a great discussion.

A day in the life here really!

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The same fellas would repaint the Mona Lisa then.

We look forward to the horse racing podcast telling you your next opinion like Milli Vanilli were the best live band of the 80s.

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That will completely fly over his head

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