The bored thread

As Finto said to me on the 76 bus going through Clondalkin village in November 1999, it’s like this Cheasty, people are either into British music or American music.

This is both a narrow minded and generally true statement.

My view of American music and America in general has been coloured by people who like shit American guitar music.

There is a perhaps apocryphal. ie. fake, quote by Noel Gallagher about the Canadian band Sum 41 which went:

“Do you ever look at the sky and think, I’m glad I’m alive? After I heard Sum 41, I thought, I’m actually alive to hear the shittiest band of all time. Which is quite something when you think about it. Of all the bands that have gone before and all the bands that’ll be in the future, I was around when the worst was around.”

There was then some confusion and the quote was for a time believed to refer to the US band System Of A Down, who would be a strong contender for worst band of all time. This quote inspired me to listen to a couple of System Of A Down songs on the YouTubes, just to let full gravity of how shite they are sink in. And by God they were even more shite than I remembered.

My formative years properly listening to guitar music were probably 1995 to, I don’t know, 2001/02 ish. In this time there were a seemingly endless succession of appalling white American guitar bands with singers who sounded like cats making that guttural growling/hissing sound they make when they feel threatened, who received fairly heavy airplay on the likes of MTV and indeed on Irish radio. This culminated in the horrific “nu-metal” scene, which is why I could never fully condemn the events of September 11th, 2001. Ultimately you’d have to say America deserved it for inflicting nu-metal on the world.

I like Tom Petty and I suppose I like Bruce Springsteen. I think I like Mazzy Star and I definitely like Mark Lanegan. I liked the singles Lump and Peaches by The Presidents Of The Presidents Of The United States of America, which is a terrible name for band. I liked that Buddy Holly song by Weezer and I have belatedly come to the view that Teenage Dirtbag by Wheatus is a classic pop song. I like the Pretenders and Patti Smith.

I don’t mind Green Day or the Red Hot Chili Peppers or the Foo Fighters or the Smashing Pumpkins or Rage Against The Machine but am not a fan as such.

I love Neil Young but he’s Canadian but I do like Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young and Buffalo Springfield and all that - which contained Americans -by association.

I have albums by the MC5 and the Stooges and I think I have an album by the New York Dolls, which would separate me from anybody who has a New York Dolls t-shirt, none of whom own any New York Dolls records.

I love Jimi Hendrix and Prince but they’re not white. I very much like American pop music in a general sense and I’d have a grá for the the blues and soul and the hippety hoppety too and even an odd bit of the country and the roots and whatever you call it.

My main target here is anybody who was a fan of a particular cohort of utterly lumpen white male American guitar bands who were prominent in the 1995 to 2001 ish era.

These bands include but are not limited to:
System Of A Down
Creed
Alien Ant Farm
Limp Bizkit
Slipknot
Korn
Linkin Park
Papa Roach
Tool

American metal music and indeed any music which identifies as “metal” is the tool of the devil, a lumpen, white, male, right wing devil.

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:joy:

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To each their own, as the fella said.

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Ridiculing shit music and the people who like it is an integral part of being a lover of music.

You grow out of that, believe it or not.

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You don’t grow out it. It evolves. You realise some of the music you once ridiculed is actually good, or even brilliant, and you use mature recollection to refocus your ire on the true enemies.

This list feels empty without Nickelback, even if they are Canadian. I’d never listen to any of that list really, but I does love a bit of Tool.

Anyways, hyup Trump!

I thought creed was A PlayStation game

Deadpool gets it

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I feel empty just reading that name.

Yer wan from Mazzy Sat was unreal and she just upped and left one day and that was it for Mazzy Star.

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Now that you’ve said this. I feel free enough to say ‘One for Sorrow’ was my favourite Steps song.

The sort of girl you fantasise about meeting on a train journey somewhere in Europe during a major international football tournament Ireland are involved in, which she is completely unaware is happening, and the two of you fall madly in love within five minutes and you vanish from the sight of your drunken shoes off for the Boys In Green fellow travellers to take off around Europe with this girl on sleeper trains visiting art galleries and hippie communes and deserted Italian islands and hills overlooking sunsets and the graves of opera singers and amazing cheap restaurants and probably a few outlets of McDonalds too, and bullfights, and tomato throwing festivals, and nightclubs on boats, and beds, and then you never see her again and it’s back to the 76 bus and an industrial estate off the Belgard Road.

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Beautiful

A great bitta stiff

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No love for Creedance? ZZ Top?

Much love for ZZ Top.

Surely Pearl Jam is worth a mention.Some of Eddys solo stuff is top notch as well.

A list of people it is possible to confuse with each other even though they may not necessarily be lookalikes:

Naomi Klein and Naomi Wolf
Jacqui Hurley and Marie Crowe and Valerie Wheeler
Sheryl Crow and Shania Twain
Graham Potter and Eddie Howe
The singer out of Scooter and Mr. C from The Shamen
Thomas Niblock and Thomas Kane
Jeremy Irons and Kenneth Branagh
John Hurt and John Gielgud
Fearne Cotton and Holly Willoughby
Ray Burke and Liam Lawlor
Gavan Reilly and Gavin Cooney
Any English band who emerged between 1994 and 2005 with a guitarist named Johnny or Jonny

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Gavin Coombes - Munster rugby player
Gaz Coombes - singer with the band Supergrass