The Corruption Thread

How similar in scenario would this be to the apartment blocks in Dublin that were thrown up and in complete breach of fire rules and have massive water ingress issues? Most of the bills for those have had to be paid for by the owners who bought them assuming everything was ok. Most of the contractors who built them went to the wall during the crash so there was feck all the owners could do.

No different. But Muldoons always expect Dublin to pay for the corners being cut.

Iā€™d pay them the money to allow home to be fixed but take a charge over the house so if itā€™s sold for a profit the state is paid back.

What about houses build on flood plains. They also deserve to be compensated etc etc

Either way, thereā€™s no justice in the system. Its crazy that builders can get away with this kind of shit with no recourse.

Thatā€™s the real issue. Home Bond was a cod.

The builders should be in prison.

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This is different if youā€™re willingly buying a house on a known flood plain to be fair.

Lot of people didnā€™t know that I suspect.

Iā€™ve no idea but then the entire planning process should be questioned. But thatā€™s another process thats rife for corruption anyway.

You pulled this segue back into the corruption thread there lovely. Like @Fagan_ODowd changing lanes on a motorway - effortless.

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Thereā€™s a multitude of wrongs in there but they are certainly not all belonging to the builders. Developers, contractors, suppliers, certifiers , quality assurance, whether it be home bond or the designers. All partially responsible somewhere along the way.

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The biggest issue in Donegal is that Cassidy were mixing concrete with every kind of shit to try and save on costs.

The building sector were not regulated adequately by the State and, hence, this went unnoticed and, it would appear, a legal action against the owners of the company would take years to be heard and would likely be so wrought up in technicalities that a ruling would be nearly impossible to come to.

The best comparison I can come up with is having your car wrote off by an uninsured motorist who has no way of paying the bill. In that case the MIB steps in and foots the bill with monies paid in by insurance companies. The difference in this instance is that the owners have new companies and are being awarded contract by Donegal County Council with these companies. Hence the #BoycottCassidys logos appearing.

A Government Redress scheme would be like the State/taxpayer bailing out Cassidyā€™s in the same way that they bailed out the banks during the financial crisis.

Earlier query from @Little_Lord_Fauntleroy re: millionaires. Thereā€™s a stipulation that the house that has MICA must be the primary residence of the applicant to the redress scheme so that might sort out that issue, also if theyā€™re a tax exile Iā€™d imagine that they can have a primary residence in Ireland.

@croppy_boy needs to change his attitude here, demanding 100% redress is a little much, if 100% redress is to be given then id prefer if he asked us sheepishly

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If an uninsured driver ploughed into your fixie would you expect to foot the bill or pay for two of the wheels and just have them pay for the bike frame?

you havent answered my earlier query mate

If this is what youā€™re referring to then I donā€™t think that you can expect someone to foot the bill for something like this. They agreed to pay a price for something and it was not provided in a working condition.

If this is their primary residence I donā€™t think thereā€™s any other way around it.

Do you think that the redress scheme should be means tested to see if the owner of the primary residence is in a position to pay and extra mortgage on a house that they might already have been paying off for the last 20 years?

you think the state should pay to build a mansion for a millionaire?

No I think this is a shitty situation. When everything is considered itā€™s easy to see that the main fault lies with the company that supplied the building blocks while there is also a question to be answered by the state in relation to the lack on regulation over the sector.

I donā€™t believe income should come into it in relation to a primary residence. A family home is a family home regardless.

I think what weā€™re really asking here Croppy is how big is your gaff?

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Only coming upon this now (I try to avoid unsavoury sounding threads). Sorry to see this news.
Those Cassidys are jointly eligible for the COTY thread. Hopefully you will find a resolution thatā€™s fair and equitable.

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Smaller than when he bought it.

Heart goes out to you @croppy_boy , would wreak havoc on a family having to contend with the whole rotten situation.

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