The Daddy Thread

Certainly boy

Two kids in full time creche cost more than a mortgage every month in most parts of Ireland.

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Iā€™d say one in a crĆØche is higher than the avg monthly mortgage payment even

to vaccinate or not to vaccinate a 12 year old?

@Tierneevin1979
@tallback what does your wife think?

My lad is just gone 16 and is off for his first Jab today.

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Iā€™m not sure about a 12 year old. Herself says the kids just donā€™t get sick with covid, so šŸ¤·
May be the price of living a normal existence for a while though, having a certificate.

Obviously you should put your kids at risk in order to flirt with the dubious notion that it will protect nanny, or some teacher.
Catch yourself on.

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I can confirm this

:see_no_evil:

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Thatā€™s one of the most disturbing things Iā€™ve read in a long while.

True nonetheless.

The extent of ā€œthe priceā€ is not yet fully known. Seems crazy IMHO. Each to their own, however.

Folsom Blue?

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You should talk to your doctor about the relative risks. The question is do you want to minimize the risk of a serious illness which admittedly is rare in children, in exchange for a very low risk of complications from the vaccine. Both risks are low, a study Iā€™ve read claimed that if all 73 million kids in the US were vaccinated, then around 7,700 would be hospitalized on average for 1-2 days, mainly mild myocarditis. If all 73 million were not vaccinated and got Covid, there would be about 14,000 hospitalizations, so 2X. The hospitalizations from Covid are more serious, about a third end up in ICU. Thereā€™s also a percentage that develop inflammatory complications afterwards, resulting in an estimated 27,000 hospitalizations.

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That needs to be caveated by the simple fact that itā€™s based on the data we have available today, and that we do not fully understand the extent or severity of potential long-term health implications. Iā€™m still gobsmacked that vaccine manufacturers have been allowed to unblind their trials after 6 months, with no consequences. The new normal, eh?

All true and we also donā€™t fully understand the extent or severity of long term health implications of Covid. So far the short term and long term effects of Covid are more severe and result in more hospitalizations for children aged 12-17 than complications from the vaccines, but both are rare.

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Vaccine side effects will be downplayed just as much as the covid stats are exaggerated. How many of the children hospitalised with covid were hospitalised due to covid?
What do you make of the ubiquitous references to the harvard 1%/pilgrim study?

Look itā€™s up to parents if they want to get their kids vaccinated or not, the risks from Covid and the risks from the vaccine are both very low for them. In rare cases, roughly 200 per million, children get sick enough from Covid to be hospitalized and about a third of them end up in ICU. In rare cases, about 100 per million, children who have been vaccinated end up is hospital but not in ICU. Not familiar with the study you referenced, can you fire up a summary.

Really? While governments and media ratchet up the levels of ā€œotheringā€?

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Basically itā€™s a harvard study which seems to state that only1% of adverse reactions are reported. I havenā€™t read the study but have heard a few references to it and see it mentioned in numerous online articles. I also read a rebuttal to these claims which itself claimed that the figure was 2%. Iā€™ve no notion of reading it myself, on account of already knowing everything.

ā€œI havenā€™t read the study butā€. Ffs.

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