The Diaspora

Bollix,that doesn’t sound promising.

What would the standard be like in say the Lancashire football championship, the top teams? Intermediate, Junior A level back home? I was reading some of the websites one day and there are loads of lads who were born in Britain to Irish parents on teams. Surely they wouldn’t be of as much use as Irish born fellas who grew up playing the game.

Depends on the competition set up. I know in the States some of American born players are the best. Once you are playing regularly you can improve.

There is one adult Aussie registered by the GAA here in WA. That’s sad.

[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 814628, member: 273”]Depends on the competition set up. I know in the States some of American born players are the best. Once you are playing regularly you can improve.

There is one adult Aussie registered by the GAA here in WA. That’s sad.[/quote]

really? there was loads back when I was out playing. our team had a good few aussie born Irish players, and a couple of pure (well, as pure as they can be) Australians. A couple of the other teams had a good number of Aussies in their squads too. some used it as training for their aussie rules teams just to keep going year round. pity to see it go so enclosed if thats the case.

The women have a few, but that’s it.

But the AR & GAA run concurrently so how would lads use it to keep fit? I know a lot of our lads would like to play it in off season, but there is none.

[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 814651, member: 273”]The women have a few, but that’s it.

But the AR & GAA run concurrently so how would lads use it to keep fit? I know a lot of our lads would like to play it in off season, but there is none.[/quote]

not sure if it was different then with seasons, but I know a few on our side definitely had it that way, and I always remember getting absolutely busted out of it by one on an opposing team and we talking about it after the game over a few bottles of beer.

Lovely story.

To play football in the UK you have to willing to accept the standard you are playing and training at. The league games can vary wildly in standard from anything from very, very poor junior b to decent junior a standard. The biggest issue for sides is continuity which is far harder to get compared to a junior side at home and most teams would have four or five changes each week to the team that started the previous week in the league.

Championship would be around the same level as junior A/intermediate football in Clare/Tipp/Limerick I’d say. the better sides in Warwickshire, Yorkshire and Lancashire would hold their own at Intermediate level no problem in those counties. The standard in London would be higher again

Most teams in Warwickshire would have a good core of homegrown lads. Most clubs would have underage set ups but the main issue is that after under 14 it is very hard for sides to get meaningful games and lads lose interest. I was involved with an under 16s team last year and we played 6 games in total, two of these where against sides who turned up with 11 and 12 men. We played a county semi final in July and then had to play a county final in October without being able to get any games in between, yet if a lad is playing soccer he will have a game at the same time every Saturday for 9 months of the year. There are some excellent footballers who are born and rared in the UK, there are also some awful shapers with soccer mentality playing the game as well

[quote=“chewy louie, post: 814666, member: 1137”]To play football in the UK you have to willing to accept the standard you are playing and training at. The league games can vary wildly in standard from anything from very, very poor junior b to decent junior a standard. The biggest issue for sides is continuity which is far harder to get compared to a junior side at home and most teams would have four or five changes each week to the team that started the previous week in the league.

Championship would be around the same level as junior A/intermediate football in Clare/Tipp/Limerick I’d say. the better sides in Warwickshire, Yorkshire and Lancashire would hold their own at Intermediate level no problem in those counties. The standard in London would be higher again

Most teams in Warwickshire would have a good core of homegrown lads. Most clubs would have underage set ups but the main issue is that after under 14 it is very hard for sides to get meaningful games and lads lose interest. I was involved with an under 16s team last year and we played 6 games in total, two of these where against sides who turned up with 11 and 12 men. We played a county semi final in July and then had to play a county final in October without being able to get any games in between, yet if a lad is playing soccer he will have a game at the same time every Saturday for 9 months of the year. There are some excellent footballers who are born and rared in the UK, there are also some awful shapers with soccer mentality playing the game as well[/quote]

the tyrone team members?

[quote=“caoimhaoin, post: 814628, member: 273”]

There is one adult Aussie registered by the GAA here in WA. That’s sad.[/quote]

Seems to be a fair few British/Aussie (not including the nordies) lads playing football here, although more on the men’s side than on the womens.

[quote=“chewy louie, post: 814666, member: 1137”]To play football in the UK you have to willing to accept the standard you are playing and training at. The league games can vary wildly in standard from anything from very, very poor junior b to decent junior a standard. The biggest issue for sides is continuity which is far harder to get compared to a junior side at home and most teams would have four or five changes each week to the team that started the previous week in the league.

Championship would be around the same level as junior A/intermediate football in Clare/Tipp/Limerick I’d say. the better sides in Warwickshire, Yorkshire and Lancashire would hold their own at Intermediate level no problem in those counties. The standard in London would be higher again

Most teams in Warwickshire would have a good core of homegrown lads. Most clubs would have underage set ups but the main issue is that after under 14 it is very hard for sides to get meaningful games and lads lose interest. I was involved with an under 16s team last year and we played 6 games in total, two of these where against sides who turned up with 11 and 12 men. We played a county semi final in July and then had to play a county final in October without being able to get any games in between, yet if a lad is playing soccer he will have a game at the same time every Saturday for 9 months of the year. There are some excellent footballers who are born and rared in the UK, there are also some awful shapers with soccer mentality playing the game as well[/quote]
Sounds very like the hurling senior championship from a couple of years back before it went all semi pro like.

Intermediate would be a fair assessment of football over here.
The lads here grew up playing the game just like the irish born players.
Lancashire started yesterday with 5 players born over here,all good,young players.
I wasn’t that impressed with the Cork team yesterday but for a missed pen and a glaring open goal miss Lancs should have sneaked it.

Incidentally,Greg Jacob lined out for Lancashire in midfield.

Did he score any schlong-range points?

No,but he put in a meaty tackle in the 2nd half which nearly split the Cork boy in half.

Manus the word in Cork was they were walking it and took the foot off the pedal.

Possibly,they may have been in trouble on a different day,but thats the way the mop flops.

Not much physicality about them,they seemed a bit soft to me.

The no.4 (Richard O’Sullivan?)was a quality player as was the lanky no.9.

[quote=“manusboyle, post: 816194, member: 108”]Possibly,they may have been in trouble on a different day,but thats the way the mop flops.

Not much physicality about them,they seemed a bit soft to me.

The no.4 (Richard O’Sullivan?)was a quality player as was the lanky no.9.[/quote]

Micheal O Laoire was the no. 9. Good player, never be a Senior though.

Good chance they were minding themselves with club championship all this week. Probably underestimated Lancashire somewhat.

Happened across this song on Youtube last week. A beautifully written and poignant song about emegration from the second half of the 19th century

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcO8jquCQ8U

Fullen Gaels and John Mitchels are in the Warwickshire hurling final next Sunday.

Hard to look past Mitchels although hard to read too much into either of yesterdays games. Should be a good contest