The English Premier League 2016/17™

What are you on about?

Nobody remembers who win Ulster titles

Like FA Cups.

Yes they do.

I can list you every Ulster title winner ever.

1959?

Down.

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V who and where?

Cavan

Clones

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Carry on

No Costa?

No Problem.

And yet you could not remember the Specialist in Failure (your words) Wenger winning 2 of last 3 FA Cups.

Anyway I will rephrase. Great managers are determined by senior All Ireland wins. Not provincial wins.

In football great managers are determined by League and European Cup wins. Not FA Cups.

Bizarre that you are equating the FA Cup to the Ulster Championship.

Completely bizarre and illogical.

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only to point out your views on Wenger and Harte are not consistent.

If your comparison is based on bizarre and illogical equations then I think it shows your comparison holds no credibility.

I see Big Sam on the news there now. He looks diminished .

Big Sam is under a lot of pressure.

He is in his hole . Palace are.

5 games, no win.

Not good.

That’s misleading though. The gap between top and bottom is expanding year by year in the EPL era and the points totals posted by the top sides bear no comparison to the Liverpool sides of the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s. In the 42 game season in the old football league, posting 90 points was a rarity - only Everton (90) in 1984/85 did it and Liverpool (90) in 1987/88 (in a 40 game season). Liverpool posted 88 points in 1985/86.

In the EPL since the turn of the century, four winning sides have posted 90 points or more and Man U posted 89 points on three occasions. And that’s in a 38 game season and not a 42 game season.

Spurs have 45 points on the board after 21 games, 9 more than last season and quite possibly their highest total at this stage since the championship winning season of 1960/61. That’s more down to how utterly pathetic the standard of the league is from 7 downward and not any brilliance of this Spurs side.

At the bottom, there’s two sides on 15 points and two sides on 16. Its not that long ago since they used to talk about the magic tally of 40 to stay up. This season 30 could suffice to stay up.

Great stuff by the London blues

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Great internetting by Nembo Kid too

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