Let’s see what Clement’s record is like after 25 games.
You’re getting tired and emotional now. It was the board of Swansea City who fired Guidolin, not me.
I’m old enough to remember what happened the last time Swansea were in the top flight. A 6th place finish in their first season in 1981/82. The following season following dismal pre-Christmas form, there was plenty of talk as to whether the manager should be fired. The decision was that a Welsh footballing legend John Toshack was unsackable. Toshack was still in situe at the end of the season when Swansea were relegated. They were relegated again in 1983/84 and in 1985/86 and just over three years on from playing in Division 1, they started season 1986/87 in Division 4. They didn’t get back to the top flight for 28 years until 2011.
The Swansea board have heeded the lessons of history. Unlike their counterparts in 1982/82 they weren’t going to wait until the end of the season to decide the fate of Guidolin when like 1982/83 the early season portents were so bad.
That’s fair enough
So you believe in lightning striking twice?
You seem to have a bizarre outlook on things, you are anti-logic.
If you are losing to Hull City at home and lying in the relegation mire after 7 games, its not anti-logic to conclude that the man at the helm might not be up to it, things might not improve without change and relegation is a distinct possibility.
It’s funny how you inconsistently apply this judgement, it’s almost as if your narrative changes depending on the person and not the facts.
I’m the only one arguing on facts here. As I have outlined, the Swansea City board were presented with an almost carbon copy set of circumstances as they were presented with in late 1982. The decision they made then not to opt for change didn’t work out and it took them nearly 30 years to recover from the ramifications of that.
You are just getting tired and emotional and personalising matters. You’ve even most bizarrely accused me of sacking Guidolin.
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You said Swansea were a rabble under Guidolin because they went through a sticky patch of form over 6 games.
You haven’t applied the same logic to Klopp who has also overseen a really bad run of results, what was it?1 win in 10 games? (that win being a victory over a team 3 divisions lower than. 3 straight home league defeats and knocked out of two cup competitions, one by lower league opposition and the other by the side they regularly raid for their best players).
The fact you are failing to address here is that you have double standards with regard to Klopp and Guidolin.
The way your narrative changes depending on the person or side involved is bizarre and is anti-facts. You are anti-logic.
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I presented all the facts that were relevant to Swansea. Your problem is you don’t like the facts I presented so you go off on your usual tagent of late, dragging Jurgen Klopp into everything. Well, I wasn’t talking about Jurgen Klopp in the first place and he’s not relevant to Swansea.
My problem with you is that you have double standards and you have compromised yourself given your contradictory assessments of Klopp and Guidolin.
You are anti-logic.
There’s no contradictory assessment. I said any EPL who presides over a 5-6 game winless streak can have no complaints if they are sacked.
Klopp continued to enjoy the support of his bosses and is still at the helm at Anfield and on the evidence of yesterday has turned the corner. Guidolin lost the support of his bosses, got fired and early signs are the faith the Swansea board belatedly placed in Paul Clement could pay dividends.
A contradiction.
There’s no contradiction there.
There is, you refused to call Liverpool a rabble under their sticky patch.
You are not applying the standards you do with Guidolin to Klopp.
You’re a hypocrite. You’re anti-logic.
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Liverpool were a rabble in the month of January. As I have already said Klopp couldn’t have had any complaints if he was sacked. The fact that they were still largely on target for their realistic season target of a Top 4 finish and had key absent personnel returning after such a bad run provided Klopp with a safety net and breathing space.
Swansea had a dreadful start to the season and lost what looked like three consecutive early season relegation six pointers to Hull (at home), Leicester and Southampton in a run of one point in six games. With a full hand of players at such an early stage in the season, Guidolin wasn’t providing much of a case that he was the man to achieve their primary season target of survival.
Guidolin provided a great case in the prior season when he saved them from the perils of relegation to comfortable survival.
He had a difficult run of games, 4 of the sides in that run of matches finished in the top 10 last year.
Given Klopp exited two competitions last year and brought Liverpool to a disappointing 8th place finish, there were less mitigating factors for his bad run of form.
What did Guidolin ever win as a manager Serie B?
Last seasons form becomes old news very quickly when second season syndrome kicks in. Just ask Ranieri.
He wasn’t hired to win trophies.