Can I support Roma this year Rudi?
Youâre in, pal.
Great. We are going to come 4th this year I believe.
Rumours now say we have accepted bids from Spurs and Southampton for Osvaldo but he would rather stay in Serie A or move to La Liga. The press claim that Atletico are readying a cash plus player offer for Osvaldo with Adrian set to be the makeweight. Iâm not overly enthused at this prospect. Osvaldo needs to go but Adrian is a fairly mediocre player in my view and Spanish attackers have tended to be massive flops in Italy.
Why would you want to come 4th in Italy?
Because it would be an improvement on 6th you fucking idiot.
Who gives a fuck whether you finish 4th or 6th?
I was under the impression that the objective of playing in a league is to finish as high as you can.
The objective for some teams is to stay up. Some to get champions league. Some to win the whole thing. The other places donât matter
So you donât think that moving from 6th to 4th this season would represent significant progress and would constitute s good season?
Not particularly
Being strongly linked with Abel Hernandez as Osvaldoâs replacement. Nani also continues to be linked with us.
I would be happy with Hernandez, he is a very talented player who has been beset by injuries the last couple of seasons and is still quite young and is a versataile attacker. Not too pushed about Nani. Marquinho and Borriello continue to be mentioned with Inter. There continues to be some worrying reports claiming we are willing to listen to offers for Lamela and would take âŹ30m for him. I would be apoplectic if we let him go for that - Lamela is a future Ballon dâOr winner and when you see the fees that lesser players are attracting - we should be looking for double that, at least.
Weâve taken in an awful lot of money this summer and have only really made one notable signing - Strootman. Benatia was only âŹ6.5m and Gervinho âŹ8m. Iâd be expecting at least 2/3 big signings before the summer is out but Iâm not very hopeful. These Americans are going to feel the wrath of the fans soon.
James Pallotta, a 55-year-old investor from Boston, stood in a hotel elevator next to Junior Tallo, a 20-year old forward from Ivory Coast wearing earbuds, and asked the younger man what he was listening to.
Tallo replied, but his thick accent left Pallotta confused for a second. The American billionaire leaned in, took a glance at the playerâs iPod and said, âOh, Lil Wayne.â Pallotta then seamlessly offered up a lyric from the rapperâs hit, âLove Me.â
Tallo laughed.
âI went to see Jay-Z on Sunday night,â Pallotta continued. âIâll send you my playlist.â
Speaking to SI.com a few moments later, AS Romaâs majority owner and president explained his effort to bond with the young Ivorian.
âItâs a team. Youâre a family. Itâs not indentured servitude,â Pallotta said. âWhat a lot of people lose sight of with these teams, is that theyâre kids. And not only are they kids, but they just moved from Brazil or Croatia or Argentina, and theyâre in Rome. You have to mentor them and have them feel that theyâre a part of the family.â
A first-generation American reared by Italian parents in Bostonâs famous North End, which he called âthe most Italian section in the United States,â Pallotta is accustomed to straddling cultures. Now heâs straddling continents. He is the only foreign owner in Serie A, and thatâs taken some getting used to in a country so proud and protective of both its identity and its calcio.
Last week, in fact, Italian Football Federation president Giancarlo Abete was quoted saying that while interest from foreign investors was flattering, âIt makes us sad, as Iâd love for all the legendary families who made Italian football great to remain in charge of their teams.â
But itâs a global sport, and Pallottaâs path to success requires abandoning past provincialism. Roma typically has featured a cosmopolitan roster (a French coach with a Spanish name currently manages a team comprising players from up to a dozen different countries on four continents) but like many of its Serie A rivals, it was slower to embrace soccerâs post-modern trappings.
At the highest echelon of the European game, a global brand no longer is a luxury. Itâs a necessity.
âUnless you get into the 21st century in terms of a stadium, social media, branding, sponsorships, all that type of stuff, youâre never going to compete at those top levels. Youâre just not,â Pallotta said. âItâs just a fact of life in sports.â
So 1,500 years after the empire fell, Rome is feeling the itch. Pallotta wants more than the Scudetto. He wants AS Roma to conquer the world and his native U.S. â once a soccer backwater â represents a pivotal component of that strategy. The Giallorossi have forged partnerships with well-known American companies like Disney and Nike, are making inroads into youth development and just completed a second consecutive summer tour of the U.S. and Canada, which included an appearance in the July 31 MLS All-Star game. And theyâre just getting started.
This isnât Pallottaâs first foray into sports ownership. In 2002 he purchased a small stake in his beloved Boston Celtics, which at that point was in the midst of the longest championship drought in team history.
Now a co-managing director at Pallottaâs investment, management and marketing firm, Raptor Group, Sean Barror used to work on corporate sales and business development for the NBA franchise.
âWhen Jimâs group bought in, the team was a bit of a shambles. Strong brand, good fan base but had fallen on hard times,â Barror told SI.com. âFrom a business standpoint, our mantra for the first there years was that we had to raise the floor before we raised the ceiling. You have to build the right foundation around your business before your realize its true value.â
The Celtics were champions in 2008 and nearly won again two years later.
âWeâve been quietly raising the floor [at Roma],â said Barror, who now handles the clubâs marketing and sponsorship deals from Raptorâs Boston office. âWhen we have that success on the pitch, we anticipate the ceiling will be that much higher.â
Success on the pitch hasnât come easy, despite Romaâs relative popularity. Since three area clubs united to form Associazione Sportiva Roma in 1927 it has claimed just three Serie A titles (one in the past 30 years) and one continental trophy â a predecessor to the UEFA Europa League called the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup back in 1961. The Giallorossi have been consistently competitive, winning nine Coppa Italia titles, finishing as Serie A runner-up 11 times and falling to Liverpool on penalty kicks in the 1984 European Cup final. But for the most part, theyâve played a distant second fiddle to the powerhouse clubs from Milan and Torino in both silverware and support (not to mention the big-name European giants from England and Spain). To Romans, thatâs frustrating. To Pallotta, it represented a classic buy-low opportunity.
âI think Roma is the most undervalued sports team and brand in the world,â he said. âIf we do it right, Roma is worth multi-billions with the whole thing we want to put together. Itâs an incredible opportunity.â
The club no longer is considered one of the sportâs most valuable by Forbes, which revised its list of the top 20 soccer teams in April. Real Madrid leads the way at $3.3 billion and Newcastle United, valued at $263 million, is 20th.
Thatâs a steep climb, but Pallotta has experience building value. He rose from modest means to create and then manage an investment portfolio worth some $12 billion. Several years ago, as he began moving beyond hedge funds and diversifying his business, Pallotta developed an interest in Roma after financier George Soros launched a bid for the club. It eventually fell through. Pallotta wasnât much of a soccer fan, but he found the relatively low price and the potential power of Romaâs brand âkind of interestingâ.
In 2011, fellow Bostonian Tom DiBenedetto cobbled together a consortium to buy out the Sensi family, which had controlled AS Roma since the early 1990s. Pallotta, perhaps feeling the tug of his Italian roots, joined in as a âpassive investorâ as DiBenedetto and his colleagues put up a reported $89 million for two-thirds of the club. UniCredit, an Italian bank, held the remainder.
Last year, when it was time for a capital injection, Pallotta assumed a controlling stake and became Romaâs president. He told SI.com that his group has spent around $160 million to acquire its share and pay off debt, contracts and other legacy costs. It eventually intends to buy out UniCredit and take 100 percent of the club.
Meanwhile, Pallotta, Raptor and his fellow investors already have started to leverage Romeâs branding potential. To borrow Barrorâs appropriate play on words, theyâre all firm believers that the capital, along with Serie A, is due a soccer ârenaissance.â
Said Pallotta, âThirty million-plus tourists, thousands of years of history, as passionate a fan base as there is, I think, anywhere. Itâs a great, undervalued opportunity to create, with a new stadium, over time, one of the great teams in the world.â
The most visible and symbolic change this season is the clubâs new logo. The traditional âASRâ monogram, which featured below the famous image of the Capitoline Wolf, is no more. In its place is the word âROMAâ, in a font that appears chiseled out of marble, along with the clubâs founding year.
âMost people around the world you speak to donât either understand what AS stands for and second, a lot of people would actually say to me âHow is AC Roma doing?â,â Pallotta explained.
Milan casts a long shadow.
âItâs Rome that youâre branding,â he said. âHaving âRomaâ there expands the brand potential exponentially.â
Naturally, the alteration prompted protests. Posters reading âNo Al Nuovo Stemmaâ â âNo to the new logoâ â were plastered around the clubâs Trigoria training facility last month.
Rome isnât the sort of city that turns its back on tradition. But the old way of doing things is part of the reason the club hasnât reached its potential. That devotion to the way itâs always been, and the accompanying inertia, has resulted in Serie Aâs fall from the summit. The circuit was ranked Europeâs best throughout the 1990s. Last year it slipped to fourth in the UEFA table, losing a Champions League spot in the process. Accusations (or even proof) of match fixing and incidents of violence and racism now seem to hit the headlines as frequently as a final score.
âI think itâs just a question of in many cases, not keeping up with the times. In effect, not keeping up with whatâs going on in sports,â Pallotta said.
Barror claimed that Serie Aâs slide, âIs a direct result of lacking commitment to infrastructure projects in the last 20 years.â
Juventus is the only Serie A club that owns its stadium. It is one of two Italian teams (AC Milan is the other) that was among the worldâs top 10 in revenue generation in 2011-12, according to Deloitte. But in match-day turnover, Milan and Juve rank ninth and 10th, respectively, among that top 10. They each earned around a quarter of what Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester United and Arsenal pulled in.
Italian stadiums arenât lucrative. They lack modern, revenue-generating amenities. Theyâre also not safe, which has added to the list of deterrents.
âYou put people in cages, theyâre going to act like animals. Thatâs just how it works,â Barror said. âYou donât have proper egress and entrance and access, ways into the stadium, dealing with the away side and home side, security, how you screen people coming through. Itâs very haphazard.â
Roma will shift the paradigm. Itâs been sharing the cavernous Stadio Olimpico with rival SS Lazio for 60 years. But soon the awkward bedfellows will part ways. Pallotta has led an effort to build a privately financed facility seating around 60,000 spectators at Tor di Valle, located near the Tiber River about halfway between downtown Rome and the airport in Fiumicino. The club hopes to open the stadium in 2016 and the president said he envisions an adjacent retail and entertainment complex â another very American amenity â that will transform the surrounding area. His model is L.A. Live, which has profoundly altered the cityscape near the Staples Center.
Romaâs home-front initiatives also include a ramp-up in its social media presence, which Pallotta described as yet another critical element of the modern sports industry. From Tumblr and Instagram to the online vote on the clubâs third jersey and the tens of thousands of surveys the team has conducted regarding the new stadium, âThereâs no question that what weâre doing now in social media most teams werenât or havenât been doing.â
Pallotta is an investor in Bedrocket Media Ventures, a New York firm that helped Major League Soccer launch its KickTV YouTube channel. He hopes to turn the clubâs analog television property into a similar sort of platform, which will spread the brand far beyond Milan or Madrid. Meanwhile, Roma is forging relationships with sports concerns and potential partners throughout the world through Raptorâs marketing and technology consulting business.
While Romaâs fans are learning to adapt, the players have taken notice. Speaking before the All-Star game, which Roma won easily, 3-1, over the MLS select squad, midfielder Michael Bradley lauded managementâs vision.
âThe first thing that you see from Mr. Pallotta and the America owners is their enthusiasm, their drive, their commitment to build something ⌠to grow something that can really be something special in the world of European football,â the Roma and U.S. star said here in Kansas City. âAs players, you want to play at a club where thereâs big ambition. You want to be at place where everybody â from the other players, the coaches, the members of the club, the president â are all striving to build something. Theyâre all striving to win something. So I think every one of us recognizes that and weâre all excited to be a part.â
Along with Pallotta, Bradley is the most obvious bridge between Roma and the U.S. and if the 26-year-oldâs career trajectory remains consistent, he very well may help the Giallorossi return to the Champions League.
But beyond Bradley are millions more Americans who Pallotta, Barror and their colleagues believe are crucial to the cause. This truly is modern football, where a storied European club representing one of the oldest, greatest cities in the world needs the U.S. to help fuel its ascent.
âBefore we played Liverpool last year at Fenway Park, the day before we flew over we tweeted and said we were going to open up the stadium and 19,000 people showed up for practice,â Pallotta said. âI think European football has tremendous growth opportunities in the United States. Crazy opportunities. Our surveys will say it all day long. College kids and that age group, a little younger through college to the late 20s, right at the top of the list of their viewing habits in sports, European football is right up there No. 1 or No. 2 in a lot of major cities.â
The major English Premier League clubs and the Spanish duopoloy of Barcelona and Madrid remain the European gameâs big brands in the U.S. But through diligence, creativity and a few carefully crafted alliances, Raptor aims to position Roma alongside them.
âWe understand that most fans are going to have their MLS team and thatâs great. Thatâs good for us, that sort of connection with the sport. Then weâre okay with being their second-favorite team,â Barror said. âI think thatâs a great goal and I think any marketplace we go in, we have to have that same authenticity. What we donât want to do is the smash and grab â play a friendly, grab our money and leave nothing behind.â
The 10-year deal with Nike starts in the summer of 2014. Roma is âonly one of four or five clubs that have the kind of structure in terms of the upsides that we have,â with the apparel manufacturer, Pallotta said.
Barror explained itâs âmore than just a kit deal. Weâre actually in business together, creating a global retail and wholesale distribution network.â That means Roma gear will be front and center from Indiana to Indonesia.
The wolf also will make an appearance at the Magic Kingdom. Last winter was the first of seven that Roma will spend in Orlando training at the ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex. Bradley and his teammates will train near and perhaps even among a legion of youth players participating in camps or the annual Disney Soccer Showcase. In the future, Romaâs under-20 team might practice in Florida. Roma coaches could run camps or clinics. Meanwhile, T-shirts featuring Mickey Mouse smiling in front of a new stadium in Tor Di Valle surely will be on sale soon.
âHow many people go through Disney World alone, like 50 million? Itâs a crazy number per year,â Pallotta said. âIf you have kids, first and foremost theyâre seeing Disney associated with Roma and our Nike relationship, youâre kind of growing a lot of these fans early.â
Barror said Orlando âwill be the base camp for everything we do out of the Americas. ⌠The idea is to create a model there and then sort of replicate in different cities around the U.S. Itâs in the nascent stages. To have a youth soccer component, fan development and player development. The other part of that is creating camps, teams and academies that teach a certain brand of soccer and expose kids over here to AS Roma in the context of playing the sport, not just attending a match.â
Back in Boston, Raptorâs Alex Zecca already is digging deeper into American youth soccerâs day-to-day. The securities trader and former college player is overseeing the partnership between Roma and Global Premier Soccer, an organization that runs teams, tournaments and camps for more than 100,000 players from Maine to Florida.
Eventually, GPS teams will wear Roma colors, GPS coaches will learn from their Roma counterparts and top players will be identified, groomed and perhaps invited to Italy to train. Meanwhile, Roma and GPS already have partnered on an initiative to bring year-round soccer to underprivileged urban areas where the sport has struggled to gain a foothold.
Zecca said that he intends to replicate Romaâs relationship with GPS with other youth clubs around the country as well as in places like Brazil and South Africa.
âWeâre going to take them under our umbrella and thereâs no limit to how many we can do,â said Zecca, a New Jersey native whose daughter Maria is a member of Italyâs under-19 womenâs national team. âWeâre going to transport our philosophies, our ideals and our methods to these clubs, train the coaches and have a direct link right to our club, and weâre going to do this all around the world.â
At the moment, the Curva Sud supporters who create such clamor and color at the Olimpico surely couldnât care less about Disney or a program for needy kids in Massachusetts. Theyâre restless. Roma is about to endure its third consecutive season without Champions League football and its second straight with no European competition at all. The new coach, Rudi Garcia, is the clubâs third manager since Pallotta took charge last year. Native son and Giallorossi talisman Francesco Totti is running out of time. Heâll turn 37 next month.
âThe fans get a little frustrated and I probably get more frustrated than anybody,â Pallotta said. âI think Iâm more competitive than the fans are. But I also understand that itâs a project, like the Celtics, that takes time.â
Roma is expected to compete immediately for a spot in Europe and may not be too far away from an assault on the Scudetto. But thereâs ample floor raising to do before it can challenge the likes of Barcelona and Bayern. So Pallotta and his team will keep one eye on the Serie A standings and the other on creating the sort of assets and connections that are the foundation of a 21st-century sports empire. Efforts in the new world already are bearing fruit.
âWhen we called a year and a half ago to MLS and said âHey, weâd love to be the All-Star opponent,â there was a little silence on the other end. I donât know the reason, but there was a little silence,â Pallotta said.
MLS had invited an English Premier League club to participate in seven of the previous eight games (the eighth was Celtic FC). The message was clear â if you werenât Premier League, you were off the radar.
âThis year, the pleasant surprise was we were called about three months or so again,â Pallotta said. "They said, âHey, weâd love you to be the MLS opponent in KC,â and we were like, âDone.ââ
If we sell Lamela then the owners are done.
Looks like Lamela is gone. He was presented at the open day this evening and his girlfriend tweeted what roughly translated as âwhat a farceâ (presumably about unveiling Lamela as a player before selling him to Spurs).
Thereâs a very sinister atmosphere building around the club right now, the owners are going to feel the wrath of the fans when the Lamela move goes through - we have pretty much forced two of the best young players in the world out of the club this summer, against their will (similar to Milan last summer with Thiago Silva and Zlatan - although you can understand that more given the wages and ages of the players).
Weâll probably end up with some diddies like Nani and Demba Ba now. Rosella would never have let this happen to Roma.
What is the fee for Lamela likely to be? We surely shouldnât sell him for less than 40 million.
Apparently, the Americans are trying to flog him for âŹ35m.
Itâs a disgrace.
[quote=âRudi, post: 820719, member: 1052â]Apparently, the Americans are trying to flog him for âŹ35m.
Itâs a disgrace.[/quote]
Given the prices of players in the current market, that is way too low. Surely heâs worth at least half of Bale.
Lamela on the bench tonight - a sure sign that we are offloading him. I am absolutely disgusted at those in charge at our club.
They are pieces of shit who care nothing about Roma. Pallotta out.
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Borriello sporting a smashing moustache tonight.