Originally Posted by Eddie Badabing
As our club slides to potential extinction, it is so notable that there is absolute silence from our elected members.
To date I can only think of Murdo Fraser making any constructive comment.
This is the conclusion of decades of inaction by our club, be it engaging with Rangers fans in politics (they exist) or countering the unaduterated intimidation and smearing from the unwashed of our club and anyone who dares align themselves with us.
What has happened at our club is a total travesty, potentially illegal, and arguably greater than RBS in terms of social (never mind sporting and business) impact.
The fact that it is being quite happily allowed to pass silently by our politicians is a disgrace!
If this was happening at Parkhead, would it be the same� :roll:
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Originally Posted by superger
We are all to blame in some respect, mate. Year in, year out, we elect individuals who hate us and would love to witness our clubâs demise. The reality is that Rangers and we as fans have been demonised, marginalised and if they could get away with it, criminalised.
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Originally Posted by Lindsay Robertson
If this was happening at Parkhead you can bet your mortage thatg it would have been raised and debated in the Scottish if not National Parliaments by know. The adminstrators would be under daily siege to get it sorted (there windows would not be safe either) and pressure would be getting put on whoever held there shares to turn then over. But we reap what we sow and years of not believing what is actually going on in this wee country is now coming home to roost.
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Originally Posted by box_to_box
Even if someone speaks up for us in this country, they are accused of being some sort of bigot.
Donald Findlay had a sing song in a private partyâŚlook what happened there.
Weâve had ****ing politicians wearing Celtic strips to Parliament and banners disgracing the British Army !
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Originally Posted by Marske_Bear
My view is Scotland has slept walked in to a Nazi style state where the majority are treated as 2nd class by the ruling minority.
You have a no win situation on MPâs ect, while a few good might exist they are only interested in themself and making sure their family and mates get looked after by contracts and the likes and they are more than happy to jump when Rome little outpost tells them to do so.
I left Scotland 12 years ago and the writing was on the wall then, the Daily Record made or broke a prospective MP as did the secret selection commitees on the left while the right just gave up and cut their loses only putting energy into safe seats.
No MP will be willing to pop their head above their wee desk and stick up for us, they ignore the bigger picture of the onion peel of income that the club and fans bring, they look at us as one but as said dont look at the ripples that we bring to the country and economy.
A properly mobilised support could make some real dents on MP seats via protest voting, it need major work to get it right but it can be done and i feel this should be done.
Have a look and http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/ and see what you local MP has done for your or the lack of itâŚ
The hand of the papes is strong and the fear they hold over our brothers is even stronger. We must rise against these importers and reclaim our country.
We also must see more high profile fans coming to the fore but they too appear scared to pop head above the walls, could you imagine down south the well known fans keeping their gobs shut if their clubs were facing the wall and going out of existance?
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Originally Posted by Diggerz
If this was happning at the terrorist theme park then youcan bet your mortgage our so called ârepresentativesâ would be on the case. The trouble is the PC nazis declared open season on Rangers and its support and the custodians sat back and told us all to be good boys. At the very least, they could have challenged the PC zealots as to why they werenât looking across the city. A bit like when your Abu Hamzas and Qatadas are spouting their hate filled p!sh, the PC self loathers are nowhere to be seen or heard.
Too many MPs in Scotland belong to the dark side and they have completely infiltrated Scotland stongest party(ies). Poll after poll at election time shows support for a party that is not well liked in Scotland and given their showing, how many bears really vote for them. Labour is full of denominational school bigots and the Tory leadership are full of public school types who have never held a job outside of politics and couldnât care less about us.
I see some may say politicians are reluctant to take the side of those seeming not to pay their taxes? Really? Successive UK Governments (both Labour and Tory) have turned a blind eye to it for years.
The fact is we should have been infiltrating the popular parties in Scotland, we might not agree with everything they stand for but it might have been a small price to pay to ensure our interests were represented. Gradually the tims took over politics and the media and once theyâre in the door, theyâll only hire and promote their own.
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Originally Posted by Vince
Totally agree with the OP ⌠The club was spineless in the face of what was virtually a propaganda war over many years. I donât even know if âspinelessâ is the correct description, as they may just have been so clueless that they did not even know what was happening. That said there have been many instances where their inaction just had âspineless cowardiceâ written all over it.
As an example of one instance ⌠we have a club that sat back and allowed itâs fans to be compared to Naziâs on a national radio station. A nice wee Radio Clyde description of our attempts to add a bit of atmosphere and colour by holding a flag day.
Imagine the difference if this was a parkhead flag day, and the reverse description was an IRA or terrorist rally. The tims would have backed their fans to the hilt, released a statement - therefore kicked of a media campaign, and pressured for the sacking of the individual concerned. They would be right to do so as this is about perception, and perceptions unchallenged can be built upon. This type of cowardly silence, going forward, could possibly effect sponsorship, marketing, future fan base, treatment by authorities, treatment by officials, and so on.
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Originally Posted by ruglenbear
This thread is spot on
While the tarriers were slowly creeping their way into every facet of Scottish society, we sat there expecting things to stay the same.
âThe Establishment Clubâ? Donât make me ****ing laugh :roll:
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Originally Posted by opersson
The labelling of almost anything associated with Rangers as sectarianism by the murphia and the permanently offended has led to us all but losing our middle class support. That is our main problem.
The brand is almost toxic.
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Originally Posted by deedle
There is a huge problem for Rangers inasmuch as it is difficult to see what we âstand forâ in modern Scotland.
Most of us arenât Protestant in a religious sense. However, I believe Rangers are the natural club of choice for Scots who hail from a Protestant familial background.
Society has become ever more fragmented and cohesive minority groups - like Scotlandâs RCs - wield considerable power in politics and the media.
A very small number of people have manipulated the entire debate surrounding âsectarianismâ for their own cynical purposes.
The outcome of this campaign is that people who would consider themselves as the aspirational/professional middle-class now shy away from Rangers. There is an undeniable class angle to the situation surrounding the club and it is interesting that several commentators in England have identified a new left-wing (as in social, certainly not economic, matters) snobbery against behaviour deemed to be associated with unenlightened lower social orders.
However, the aspirational/middle class is the group which has by far the strongest influence in politics and the media and we must get them onside.
Otherwise, we face a vicious cycle in which Rangers supporters become evermore ostracised.
As Stuart Waiton said to me, Rangers fans have been deemed the âniggersâ of modern Scotland.
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Originally Posted by berkshiretrueblue
This comes as no surprise to me and in reality the fans have only themselves to blame although the demonisation of Rangers which was allowed to happen during Murrayâs reign certainly hasnât helped and we should never forget that Murray and Bain openly supported this.
However, it is clear for those of us that sit outside Scotland that Rangers FC just as with many other true Scottish traditions have been on the wane since the 1960âs as Scotland slumped further and further to the left and the recognised church lost its soul.
Traditional industries were lost and with it most of the âprotestant work ethicâ went with it.
The Trade Unions and the Labour Party were infiltrated cleverly with our enemies and slowly and surely they manipulated themselves into positions of power be it in the media, the Banking and Insurance sectors, politics and the legal and accounting professions.
Now they are practicing what they long accused others of doing but without criticism since they control the masses.
Since we canât unfortunately turn the clock back to the 1950s and early 60âs, it is difficult to see how things will change unless there is an awakening among the indigenous population and they take their country back.
Rangers FC is most probably the last bastion of the old traditional Scotland, if they succeed in destroying the club then in another generation the country will be a Socialist Republic run by Left Wing Apologists for a minority that donât in the main even see themselves as Scottish!
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Originally Posted by rocker
Politicians and councillors in Glasgow want rid of us because almost all of them are Roman Catholic Celtic supporters who see Glasgowâs future as no Rangers = no bigotry.
Their grand plan is to have one team (Celtic) supported by the cityâs entire population.
It wonât happen in this or the next generation but it is their long haul plan.
And we continue to vote them in.
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Originally Posted by Steadfast
Quite simply, mass immigration of a people with no desire to integrate has, in the long run, done for us.
Rather than working hard to form part of the country they want to take it over. Theyâve beavered away to get themselves in positions of power and are now working on their plan of cultural ethnic cleansing.
Theyâve made it, using the mhedia and their influence on popular culture, so that to declare yourself as culturally Protestant and British is in some way a negative thing.
Their infiltration of the law courts has seen it that any sectarian attacks on protestants, whether it be online like Mad Joe or the banner at the taig school, are dismissed as banter while we canât say boo to a plastic paddy without Salmondâs Stormtroopers wanting to take us to Bar-L.
All this has culminated in a fear of being associated with us. Bears in positions of influence who may be able to speak out are scared of how it might affect their career prospects.
This has never been about just wanting your footballing rivals to suffer financial hardship. Itâs about the cultural elimination of the indiginous Scottish people.
Remember their recent chant âNo h*ns in Scotlandâ?
Itâs a fenian manifesto that goes beyond daft wee boys at the Stade de Nonce.