The Ireland 2023 Rugby World Cup Bid

Ireland’s Rugby World Cup 2023 bid chairman Dick Spring has stated that at this early stage they hold 40% of the votes in the bidding process.

Speaking to RTÉ Radio, Spring revealed that Ireland’s global connections had already put the bid in a strong position.

“I would say at this stage we are already up over the 40% mark. And we would be working to build from that. But you have to get one over the quota. There is a first round of voting, and say you eliminate two at the first round, you will be voting again,” said Spring.

“I take this on with huge enthusiasm with the whole country behind us.”

Spring also highlighted South Africa – who previously hosted the World Cup in 1995 – as a strong rival to Ireland’s bid.

“I think South Africa will feel very strong. A strong rugby nation with their own difficulties in other circumstances and I think that they’ll be doing their homework and we’ll be doing likewise,” said Spring.

“There would be strong reliances on the time zones, especially the way southern hemisphere rugby has bonded with their various competitions - Argentina, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand. Though we have strong relations with Australia and New Zealand, less so with Argentina I would imagine.”

The former Tánaiste and Labour Party leader pinpointed that this campaign is very much for the Irish people rather than specifically rugby and its community.

“This is a great challenge for Ireland Inc – the whole island. If I’m asked to do something public service I’m quite happy to step up to the plate with a good team, and a lot of work done already, which is great, we can hit the ground running,” said Spring.

“In saying that I know we’re in for one hell of a dog fight to achieve this for Ireland.”

The campaign will run until 2017 at which stage World Rugby will make a final decision on who will succeed Japan as the World Cup’s hosts - the Asian nation of course holding the event in 2019.

“Its’ a two-year battle. As we speak World Rugby are speaking to the unions looking for expressions of interest and that’s the first commitment that the IRFU have to make backed by the Irish government and Northern Ireland government,” said Spring.

“By the middle of next month we will be expressing our interest and then we will be putting our teams together. This isn’t just the oversight team, we’ll be putting a bid team together – and it will take quite some time and quite a lot of work.

“I’m very confident on one level – the infrastructure. Anyone with an interest in sport knows that we have Fitzgerald Stadium, we have [Semple, Stadium] Thurles, we have an 82,000 stadium [Croke Park], which is not associated with rugby particularly, but obviously we can play the final there.

Croke Park is slated to play host to the 2023 Rugby World Cup final

“This is something we have to get into the public domain early, [the misconception] that Ireland [only] has the Aviva Stadium. That’s probably the first major information campaign that you need to get out there.”

The GAA have fully backed the campaign and Spring credited the organisation, and its director general Paraic Duffy, for its support.

“This isn’t just the IRFU bidding for the World Cup, it’s sport in Ireland. Obviously the IRFU are connected with the FAI in the Aviva Stadium but the role of the GAA in this will be central. We couldn’t even think about it without the absolute commitment of Paraic Duffy, and all the work that has been done in the background. The GAA have come forward and said they want to be part of this north and south,” said Spring.

“Certain GAA stadia will be updgraded. That was in the planning anyway and if you look at it retrospectively, 20 years we couldn’t have brought this to Ireland because we didn’t have the quality of stadia. Now we have – the major stadia have all been upgraded and there is work to be done in a number of the stadia and that will be done well in advance of 2023.”

Casement Park in Belfast is on the list of stadia to be used; however, this is dependent on the planned £80m redevelopment going ahead.

A redeveloped Casement Park is also part of Ireland’s RWC 2023 bid

“The bid could go ahead without it, we’d obviously prefer if it was available, because it would fit exactly what we want for pool games. It’s in the GAA’s interests that they get this resolved ASAP,” said Spring.

MacHale Park, Castlebar, is also one of the stadia proposed to be used as a World Cup venue and Spring has no doubt that the town could be used to host pool ties.

MacHale Park would host pool-stage matches

“It could cater for a pool game or two. The pool games that we are looking at would be somewhere between 15 and 20,000 people for a pool game, so that would be well capable of doing that,” said Spring.

“They host Connacht finals and big GAA dates.

“Also counties like Kerry and Mayo with big hospitality backgrounds will have little difficulty in pool games.”

There has been debate over whether a tournament of this scope is beyond Ireland as a host country but Spring pointed to the manner in which New Zealand, a country with a similar population, succeeded in hosting the event.

“[It’s going to cost a serious amount of money. Looking at the way a country like New Zealand ran it, we would be confident that it will be an international success,” said Spring.

“One, because of the sport mad Irish people. Two, our location from a point of European rugby following. Obviously with the proximity to the United States there is no difficult coming across the Atlantic.”

“From the work done by the feasibility study we would be very confident that this would be a financial success.

“This is a very commercial operation, which given the success of rugby in Ireland of late, we would be in a very good position to exploit.

“The IRFU have a great tradition in world rugby as one of the oldest unions and we’ve also had great success in recent years.

“I would be emphasising the positives on Ireland rather than saying you shouldn’t be going to South Africa or France. I wish them well in their bidding but I think on this occasion will we emphasise the positive.”

In terms of voting, the number of votes is likely to expand in a restructuring of the system, by the end of the year.

“The voting procedure is going to change before the year is out. At the moment it’s about 27 votes on the world board. That may go up to somewhere between 35 and 40. It reminds me of, ‘How do you change the Security Council on the United Nations?’” said Spring.

“Everybody wants change but nobody wants to lose their strong position. But there will be change in terms of the structure of World Rugby and in terms of the voting strength of the various countries and we’ll know that by the autumn and we will go hunting."

Spring even pointed to the South Sea Islands as a source of perhaps unlikely votes for the Irish bid, saying: “We have very strong Irish connections in Samoa. Some pirates who fell off ships there about 200 years ago.

“In fact I met their minister for agriculture there many years ago on the way back from Australia. He had very strong Irish connections.

“Anywhere there’s a vote to be got, we will do our research - our work.”

I’d say a game between Fiji and Japan would do wonders for the local economy in Castlebar

It’s a Festivus for Rest of Us.

“This is a great challenge for Ireland Inc":confused:

No mention of Fortress Thomond.

Hopefully it fails.

I’ll be supporting this bid.

Me too. Go Ireland!

Hon Ireland

This would be a great event for Ireland. Rocko, can we get a countdown timer to 2023 on the homepage please.

It would be fantastic if we got this. It’s about time all those white elephants the GGA littered all over the country were used.

What a boon this would be for the country. You can do it Dick!

not for oireland mate, for Ireland inc

im for this.
its just a sporting event, lads need to relax. the rugger buggers will come in, eat drink be merry and have the banter before fucking off without killing or raping anyone.
if we need to rebrand or peddle Ireland Inc to get it here then fucking do it. will be a great boost to the country and im fairly certain there is fuck all of note happening in october/november of that year anyway

[QUOTE=“HBV*, post: 1143669, member: 234”]im for this.
its just a sporting event, lads need to relax. the rugger buggers will come in, eat drink be merry and have the banter before fucking off without killing or raping anyone.
if we need to rebrand or peddle Ireland Inc to get it here then fucking do it. will be a great boost to the country and im fairly certain there is fuck all of note happening in october/november of that year anyway[/QUOTE]
Imagine the boost the Escort agencies will get from this if we nail it down. :eek::clap:

For Ireland, the country, island and economy.

we will probably need to ship a fresh batch in to deal with demand

I’m against this.
Most of the Gaelic Sports grounds referenced as good enough as they hold X thousand simply aren’t good enough. Concrete shitholes with support bars on the one stand with seats. No media or corporate facilities. Good enough for GAA HQ who want all major GAA events in Croke Park and good enough for old codgers on county boards looking for legacy projects but not good enough for an international sporting event.

New Zealand was the last world cup where these shit stadiums are acceptable.

What’s more in order to bring these dumps up to standard the GAA will receive millions more from the tax payer. And just like with Croke Park they will continue their sectarian shut out to other sports after the money train has left.

No thanks.

[QUOTE=“Tim Riggins, post: 1143678, member: 1382”]I’m against this.
Most of the Gaelic Sports grounds referenced as good enough as they hold X thousand simply aren’t good enough. Concrete shitholes with support bars on the one stand with seats. No media or corporate facilities. Good enough for GAA HQ who want all major GAA events in Croke Park and good enough for old codgers on county boards looking for legacy projects but not good enough for an international sporting event.

New Zealand was the last world cup where these shit stadiums are acceptable.

What’s more in order to bring these dumps up to standard the GAA will receive millions more from the tax payer. And just like with Croke Park they will continue their sectarian shut out to other sports after the money train has left.

No thanks.[/QUOTE]
I agree. They should host it in fit for purpose rugby stadia like the showjumping arena in Dublin and the agricultural showgrounds in Galway, or not at all.

[QUOTE=“Tim Riggins, post: 1143678, member: 1382”]I’m against this.
Most of the Gaelic Sports grounds referenced as good enough as they hold X thousand simply aren’t good enough. Concrete shitholes with support bars on the one stand with seats. No media or corporate facilities. Good enough for GAA HQ who want all major GAA events in Croke Park and good enough for old codgers on county boards looking for legacy projects but not good enough for an international sporting event.

New Zealand was the last world cup where these shit stadiums are acceptable.

What’s more in order to bring these dumps up to standard the GAA will receive millions more from the tax payer. And just like with Croke Park they will continue their sectarian shut out to other sports after the money train has left.

No thanks.[/QUOTE]

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