The Ireland 2023 Rugby World Cup Bid

[QUOTE=“Tim Riggins, post: 1143732, member: 1382”]
Adding to my revulsion at handing over more money to the GAA, the fact we will have 8 years of fawning over them sickens me.[/QUOTE]

Think the rugby lads should try a World Cup bid without the GAA stadiums and see how that goes.

I’d imagine this was hammered out long ago and I’d say its a racing certainty. Good for the country really I suppose though @Tim Riggins post was excellent.
I reckon this “bidding process” is a farce mainly orchestrated so the elite can claim a historic triumph.

It’ll be good if Ireland win this bid. It shows the authorities are willing to bring Rugby to countries with no impact on the true international stage. Maybe it gives Ireland a chance of finally breaking past the last 8 in a tournament that 10 teams take seriously.

[QUOTE=“flattythehurdler, post: 1144207, member: 1170”]I’d imagine this was hammered out long ago and I’d say its a racing certainty. Good for the country really I suppose though @Tim Riggins post was excellent.
I reckon this “bidding process” is a farce mainly orchestrated so the elite can claim a historic triumph.[/QUOTE]

It will be truly historic if they manage to win the right to pay the IRB €120m to host the tournament

:eek:

Listen pal, by the time the Fine Gael multiplicator has been on it, it will have wiped out the national debt, and provided 200000 much needed jobs.

Rogbee football.

The roasters seem to think I think the IRFU could go it alone and should ignore the GAA. I would be happy for the GAA to be involved if they ceased their localised half arsed stadium policies and were forced to remove their sectarian ban on other sports.

The IRFU’s national stadium needs are not too bad. One stadium short out west, renting one in Dublin for medium games. Not for a rugby world cup, but fine for their general needs. The GAA’s is fine for them, they can play in shitholes and enjoy it. The Irish taxpayer shouldn’t be giving them cash for half arsed refurbishments for an 8 week competition though. And the IRFU shouldn’t encourage it just because Dick Spring wants to save his nephew’s seat.

Could you flesh this bit out, Tim?

Rule 42, now contained under a new name in the rulebook of the GAA still exists. The ones most opposed to its removal were, surprise surprise, Ulster GAA.

The GAA’ stadium policies are driven at a county board level. 10 million here and there for new stands (with cheap supports obscuring views) in different countries. No centralised planning, all county boards driving tiny improvements for their egos. The only reason Casement was going to be half decent was because the British Taxpayer was subverting it to such a great extent. HQ have no incentive to take events away from Croke Park with the current situation.

[QUOTE=“Tim Riggins, post: 1144542, member: 1382”]
The GAA’ stadium policies are driven at a county board level. 10 million here and there for new stands (with cheap supports obscuring views) in different countries. No centralised planning, all county boards driving tiny improvements for their egos. The only reason Casement was going to be half decent was because the British Taxpayer was subverting it to such a great extent. HQ have no incentive to take events away from Croke Park with the current situation.[/QUOTE]

Those subversives are stuck in everything in the North.

[QUOTE=“Tim Riggins, post: 1144542, member: 1382”]Rule 42, now contained under a new name in the rulebook of the GAA still exists. The ones most opposed to its removal were, surprise surprise, Ulster GAA.

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:clap::clap::clap:

Ulster is the only part of this island with backbone.

Why was this allowed to be built in 2008?

[QUOTE=“Tim Riggins, post: 1144552, member: 1382”]http://mayogaablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/McHale-Park.jpg

Why was this allowed to be built in 2008?[/QUOTE]
Nobody shouted “stop”?

[QUOTE=“Tim Riggins, post: 1144542, member: 1382”]Rule 42, now contained under a new name in the rulebook of the GAA still exists. The ones most opposed to its removal were, surprise surprise, Ulster GAA.

The GAA’ stadium policies are driven at a county board level. 10 million here and there for new stands (with cheap supports obscuring views) in different countries. No centralised planning, all county boards driving tiny improvements for their egos. The only reason Casement was going to be half decent was because the British Taxpayer was subverting it to such a great extent. HQ have no incentive to take events away from Croke Park with the current situation.[/QUOTE]
So do you think the GAA should just build stadiums for other sports who don’t have their shit together to have their own?

Where did I say that?

The IRFU own three stadiums of decent quality, including Ireland’s only UEFA Category 4 stadium. The only GAA stadium with that quality is Croke Park. Every other stadium is good enough for the GAA but not for international sports. The IRFU realistically are one stadium short of their general needs being fully there- somewhere in the west- which is obviously not that high on the priorities list.

What I do not want is the GAA being given millions more for the sake of 8 weeks of competition. It’s up to the GAA what they want their stadium policy should be but Dick Spring talking about Fitzgerald Stadium is laughable. It’s miles from being an appropriate venue.

[QUOTE=“Tim Riggins, post: 1144585, member: 1382”]Where did I say that?

The IRFU own three stadiums of decent quality, including Ireland’s only UEFA Category 4 stadium. The only GAA stadium with that quality is Croke Park. Every other stadium is good enough for the GAA but not for international sports. The IRFU realistically are one stadium short of their general needs being fully there- somewhere in the west- which is obviously not that high on the priorities list.

What I do not want is the GAA being given millions more for the sake of 8 weeks of competition. It’s up to the GAA what they want their stadium policy should be but Dick Spring talking about Fitzgerald Stadium is laughable. It’s miles from being an appropriate venue.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately what you want is neither here nor there. The reality is that the IRFU is in the ha’penny place when it comes to stadia and if they want to stage this vanity project they’ll have to go cap in hand to the GAA.

[QUOTE=“Tim Riggins, post: 1144585, member: 1382”]Where did I say that?

The IRFU own three stadiums of decent quality, including Ireland’s only UEFA Category 4 stadium. The only GAA stadium with that quality is Croke Park. Every other stadium is good enough for the GAA but not for international sports. The IRFU realistically are one stadium short of their general needs being fully there- somewhere in the west- which is obviously not that high on the priorities list.

What I do not want is the GAA being given millions more for the sake of 8 weeks of competition. It’s up to the GAA what they want their stadium policy should be but Dick Spring talking about Fitzgerald Stadium is laughable. It’s miles from being an appropriate venue.[/QUOTE]

Frank is like the Qatar of Irish Sport.

What’s the point of a new stadium in Cork?

Frank :clap::pint:

Yes and as I said, no thanks to this competition.

And once again, the IRFU’s stadium needs are fine. In the last 10 years they have had 3 of their stadiums either rebuilt or properly refurbished. The RDS became a viable option as another in Dublin and makes sense to all sides. The IRFU are short a stadium out West, but as I said that wouldn’t exactly be a priority. If an integrated stadium policy comes out of this effort then brilliant but given the GAA doesn’t even have one then I won’t hold my breath.

Additionalny the fact that Dick Spring says we already have 40% of the votes before the process has properly started tells you everything you need to know. Some screen shots of those GAA stadium’s capacities seems to be good enough for the blazers who decide these things. We will probably get it and there’ll be some half arsed refurbishments.

[QUOTE=“Tim Riggins, post: 1144662, member: 1382”]Yes and as I said, no thanks to this competition.

And once again, the IRFU’s stadium needs are fine. In the last 10 years they have had 3 of their stadiums either rebuilt or properly refurbished. The RDS became a viable option as another in Dublin and makes sense to all sides. The IRFU are short a stadium out West, but as I said that wouldn’t exactly be a priority. If an integrated stadium policy comes out of this effort then brilliant but given the GAA doesn’t even have one then I won’t hold my breath.

Additionalny the fact that Dick Spring says we already have 40% of the votes before the process has properly started tells you everything you need to know. Some screen shots of those GAA stadium’s capacities seems to be good enough for the blazers who decide these things. We will probably get it and there’ll be some half arsed refurbishments.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes: