The Joe Brolly tells porkies thread

[QUOTE=“myboyblue, post: 1039807, member: 180”][SIZE=6]Joe Brolly: Just a Derry f**ker[/SIZE]
on November 2, 2014 4:33 pm /
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SUITED AND BOOTED… But is it for the good of the GAA as an Association?

The senior inter-county game is sucking the life out of the GAA. There are only a few teams who can realistically compete for honours in either code.

There are only around 2,000 senior county players, of whom roughly 10% have a chance of winning a major honour.

Meanwhile, there are almost one million GAA members in the country and around 100,000 men playing senior club football or hurling.

The county game used to be the icing on the cake. Now, it is a sprawling commercial colossus that dominates the calendar, leaving the clubs to feed on the scraps.

The GPA are the poster boys for this new commercialism. They are an autonomous body with their own Chief Executive.

His salary is secret, described as “commercially sensitive”. It is funded by the GAA to the tune of €8.75m over five years, an agreement that runs until 2016.

On top of that, it is free to pursue its own commercial activities, the only caveat being that those activities must not conflict with the GAA’s commercial interests.

The core ideals of the wider GAA are volunteerism, amateurism and participation.

The GPA’s principles meanwhile (funded by us) are elitism and the promotion of the individual. They saw (and see) the GAA as a cash cow, rife for commercial exploitation for the few and they are right.

A few high profiled players have become human advertising hoardings.

The top brass make regular junkets abroad, in the manner of the CEO of Tesco or Goldman Sachs. Their annual dinner is an opulent affair, staged in New York, as you do.

On the 2nd of October 2014, a lavish transatlantic banquet was held by the GPA at the New York Plaza. The guests of honour were Tom Moore, partner in the vast billion dollar medical malpractice law firm KDLM and Mike Brewster of Credit Suisse.

According to the GPA’s website, The “dinner committee” was “co-chaired by Adrian Jones, managing director of Goldman Sachs.”

The GPA have been popping up at disaster sites in New York, shovels in hand and photographers at the ready. It is a world away from the GAA.

Recently, the GPA’s CEO Dessie Farrell announced a commercial deal with the GPA’s new “official suit partners” Best Menswear, featuring three stars of the county game dressed, it must be said, like Doctor Who.

David Jones of Best Menswear commmented: “ When we look at these players, all young, super-fit, handsome, healthy men in their prime, who by their very nature are differing sizes and body shapes, we know our challenge is to deliver a team that reflects their All-Star quality and professionalism, that is turned out to perfection, that looks as sublimely good as they play.” Stop the world and let me off.

[B]A fortnight ago, Colm O’Rourke criticised the GPA for their elitism and was subjected to a co-ordinated backlash that would have done the Isreali lobby proud.

It was revealed by him on Sunday that the source of the attacks was a group text sent by the GPA to its reps around the country, all of whom are on generous expenses, funded by us.

It read “Boys, Colm O’Rourke is having a serious cut off the GPA today, I’m going to send you on a small graphic showing what we have done this year, anything you can do on Twitter in response greatly appreciated. Meath F*cker”[/B]

Their piety, self applause and preciousness is truly nauseating. But most telling is their hysterical response to criticism.

In their vision of the GAA, participation is irrelevant. If you are a great county Gaelic footballer or hurler they can do business with you. The ideals of the GAA however mean nothing.

In a propoganda piece in Sunday’s Independent, Dessie Farrell wrote that the GPA’s central aim is “to ensure that the county player no longer commits to the game at the expense of his personal development.”

He went on to say “ The GPA has not just made people ‘aware of mental health’ – it has saved players’ lives.”

Well, the Derry team I played on didn’t need the GPA to save us from the horrors of county football. With the normal caveats around human life, all of the group are more or less flourishing.

School principals, Chief Executives, the professionals, contractors, entrepreneurs etc. The same broadly applies to the lads I played against. The reality is that we were always the privileged ones.

As for “saving lives”, this is a dangerous and distasteful boast. There is no doubt that any awareness around mental health is very very welcome and the GPA’s work in this regard has been very good.

Donal Og has been a most articulate advocate for this and is, in one sense, an impressive man. It is also true that three county footballers have had in-patient treatment in addicition facilities fully funded by the GPA.

But, in the end, the GPA’s role is extremely limited and they ought not use it as a sort of moral blackmail against criticism.

[B]In GAA communities around Ireland we are dealing with addiction and mental health problems day in day out.

I have been asked to go see so many young people with problems that I take guidance from an expert counsellor at the Northlands Centre and a consultant psychiatrist with whom I work closely in the law courts.

Even for them, mental health and addiction can be a mystery. Which is why I wince when the GPA makes such gauche claims.[/B]

My problem with the GPA is that they are a capitalist outfit like any other, living amongst us and confusing the GAA message.

The GAA, with around a million members, is the pre-eminent community organisation in Ireland.

But we are a sleeping giant, with vast untapped potential to expand our social, cultural and even political work to ensure a better, more just society.

[B]The GPA does a little charity work, which is fine. There are a couple of UNICEF ambassadors and some support for good causes. It’s a bit like Madonna’s charity work.

Optforlife is a living, working example of a charity. We are on the go two years. We based it on the GAA ideals. We do not accept donations or handle money. We are volunteers. No salaries. No expenses. Love thy neighbour and all of that.

In that time, we have spread through the land and the logo, crafted for nothing by a friend who lost a child, is on the shirts of a couple of hundred club teams. We have driven all over the country.

In January, we did a deal with the Taoiseach for a fit for purpose organ donation/transplant infrastructure which includes nineteen full time organ donation personnel. The cost? Just slightly more than the GPA’s annual budget. The cost of optforlife? Zero.[/B]

Awareness of organ donation has rocketed. The community benefit is immeasurable. When I see its impact so far, I see clearly the impact a revitalised, community focussed GAA could have on our society. For the many, not the few.

This drift towards capitalism and the creation of an elite game has resulted in the club members and club players which make up 99.9% of the GAA being screwed.

Clubs are left in an annual limbo that is seriously damaging participation. The priority for county boards, with the Board at Jones’ Road turning a blind eye, is to get the club championships disposed of as quickly as possible. But more than that, it has continued the process of corroding our ideals and moving the GAA down the road of unchecked capitalism.

The GAA must start by rebalancing the fixtures in favour of the 99.9%. After that, it must look to the bigger picture, or it will be too late. Community will give way to individualism and we’ll be left with the GPA.

What would I know? I’m just a Derry f**ker.

He has a point about the elitism and the individualist ethos the GPA seems to push, but the rest of it is an aimless rant.

Brolly plays a character on television who routinely trashes both individuals and teams in a sensationalist and often unsavoury manner as a form of entertainment. He has no moral high-ground here.

Yet more evidence of the cuntishness of Brolly.

Nothing cuntish about an honest appraisal of a real cunt like Queen.

For a smart man (Brolly) he’s letting himself down big-time. He hasn’t the physical stature (or Celtic Crosses) of O’Rourke or the haul of accolades of Spillane.
A handy enough corner-forward in his, albeit short cameo in the greater scheme, he funnily reminds me of The Mort…

A fur coat and no knickers…

[QUOTE=“Watch The Break, post: 1046407, member: 260”]He has a point about the elitism and the individualist ethos the GPA seems to push, but the rest of it is an aimless rant.

Brolly plays a character on television who routinely trashes both individuals and teams in a sensationalist and often unsavoury manner as a form of entertainment. He has no moral high-ground here.[/QUOTE]
I don’t think he plays a character at all on telly. That’s exactly the way he is and that type of cutting ‘personal’ criticism is exactly what goes on from supporters all over the country after a game. Succesful former players are especially notable for it. Only thing unusual about him is he does it live on tv. It’s cuntish to hear like last year when he kept on about mcLoughlin bottling it for mayo v Kerry but this is exactly the kind of chat that was going on among fans and former players all over the country.

Joe Brolly has sparked another controversy by questioning Roy Keane’s mental state.

The former Derry star lived up to his reputation as one of the country’s most outspoken sports pundits when he claimed the Republic of Ireland assistant manager “has all sorts of deep-seeded psychological issues that have never been dealt with” on Newstalk’s Off The Ball programme today.

Weighing into a discussion about Keane’s involvement in a hotel altercation with Irish soccer supporter Frank Gillespie before last Friday night’s European Championship qualifier defeat to Scotland, Brolly said: “It always amuses me to hear soccer players described as role models. They are nothing of the kind. Keane is just, you know he is interesting and for the media it is fantastic, it’s like having a soccer coaching Kardashian.

“I think that (Martin) O’Neill enjoys him more than anything else. O’Neill has got broad shoulders and O’Neill is smart, he has got a lot of the things that Roy doesn’t have. Roy will never be a leader, he couldn’t be a military leader for example.

“Keane brings huge interest wherever he goes, but I think he will fail wherever he goes as a manager because he doesn’t have any of the emotional intelligence that is required.

“I would imagine that he has all sorts of deep-seeded psychological issues that have never been dealt with. He seems to have an addictive personality.

“You see barristers like this as well, that freelance world. As a soccer player, he was just a freelance soccer player, all he had to do was play soccer and he was brilliant at that of course and he burned so brightly.

“But then he reaches the age of 35 and because he has never had to change or think about himself, he has never done that and his personality is absolutely set in stone."

The 1993 All-Ireland winner continued: “You see barristers like that as well, they are freelance and they come to court and you hear people ‘oh here he is now this is fantastic’ and they make fortunes of money and they live in a bubble.

“They retire at the age of 70 and they are as undeveloped in the inner life as when they were 18. I don’t think there is much in it (the hotel incident) to be honest. If you’ve got Roy Keane, it’s a bit of fun, it’s showbiz and all of that. You know people laugh at the guy, I think it’s pathetic. I must say in general I think it’s pathetic.

“I must say I feel sorry for the fella. Maybe that’s wrong, maybe he doesn’t feel in the slightest bit troubled, maybe it’s an act. Maybe all that volcanic stuff that stems around that is just an act.

“But it seems to me it’s a guy with serious inner turmoil."

something very odd about this piece…a man who would say anything for attention commenting on the psychological state of someone else…

A man is asked his opinion and gives it. Cant believe someone even dragged an article out of that, where is it from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWdd6_ZxX8c

don’t know originally but was on hoganstand.com …brolly gave more than his opinion…to me it loks like he started using it to have a cut at some barrister…

He was asked a question about something that wouldnt be an area of expertise for him so he used an example from his own profession. Dont see an issue with it to be honest, merely Hogan Stand, or whoever they lifted it from, bringing about a bit of click bait because someone like Brolly is pure clickbait.

Meanwhile, nothing about the beautiful speech Brolly gave about Anto Finnegan and the game played in his name on Saturday night. That was far more interesting, but less click bait for a rag like Hogan Stand or wherever they lifted it from.

Keane is a nasty, horrible cunt and Brolly has given an opinion (that’s not really controversial as many people share that view on Keane). The Irish media are going overboard as there are some weirdos in this country that don’t want Keane being exposed for what he is.

Fair play to Brolly.

I will armchair diagnose Joe Brolly

He is a clever guy. A successful barrister. He falls into the trap lots of successful barristers make - he believes he is the smartest guy in the room. Every room. Every topic. He is so smart that if somebody has a different point of view to him that he dismisses it instantly as he sees things nobody else can see and understands what nobody else can understand.

I’m a fan of Brolly, but he is missing a key point here. Keane now talks openly about his weaknesses and his mental frailties. He has become far more self aware, an that in itself is healing. Keane has talked about it all as a game and that a lot of everyday life is a game and an act.

I think he has expanded his thinking, his reading and ha developed differently to the barrister type Joe describes there. I have met business people like that, it’s fairly common really. These people often also hit 60/70 and realise they know little about their kids, their friends etc

I think you are right, Keane is the vehicle for a dig at someone else.

[QUOTE=“Il Bomber Destro, post: 1046541, member: 2533”]Keane is a nasty, horrible cunt and Brolly has given an opinion (that’s not really controversial as many people share that view on Keane). The Irish media are going overboard as there are some weirdos in this country that don’t want Keane being exposed for what he is.
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[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1046542, member: 2272”]
He falls into the trap lots of successful barristers make - he believes he is the smartest guy in the room. Every room. Every topic. He is so smart that if somebody has a different point of view to him that he dismisses it instantly as he sees things nobody else can see and understands what nobody else can understand.[/QUOTE]

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When I see on the the Sunday game live programs he puts me in mind of a frustrated squinting semi retarded middle aged woman who no one will ever ride. He’s a pure woman.

as an aside the article references Brolly saying “deep-seeded”. Did he say this or did the journalist pick it up incorrectly.

The correct phrase is “deep seated”.

Just pointing it out in case a younger forum member spoils a romance by misusing a phrase in this way and coming across as a simpleton.

[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1046548, member: 273”]I’m a fan of Brolly, but he is missing a key point here. Keane now talks openly about his weaknesses and his mental frailties. He has become far more self aware, an that in itself is healing. Keane has talked about it all as a game and that a lot of everyday life is a game and an act.

I think he has expanded his thinking, his reading and ha developed differently to the barrister type Joe describes there. I have met business people like that, it’s fairly common really. These people often also hit 60/70 and realise they know little about their kids, their friends etc

I think you are right, Keane is the vehicle for a dig at someone else.[/QUOTE]

Christ almighty, everyone knows their own failings, big deal,keanes are so evident that he is in last chance saloon in terms of employment so he is trying to talk about how he is changing yet last week proves he isnt self aware enough to change- a fud

[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1046561, member: 2272”]as an aside the article references Brolly saying “deep-seeded”. Did he say this or did the journalist pick it up incorrectly.

The correct phrase is “deep seated”.

Just pointing it out in case a younger forum member spoils a romance by misusing a phrase in this way and coming across as a simpleton.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1046548, member: 273”]I’m a fan of Brolly, but he is missing a key point here. Keane now talks openly about his weaknesses and his mental frailties. He has become far more self aware, an that in itself is healing. Keane has talked about it all as a game and that a lot of everyday life is a game and an act.

I think he has expanded his thinking, his reading and ha developed differently to the barrister type Joe describes there. I have met business people like that, it’s fairly common really. These people often also hit 60/70 and realise they know little about their kids, their friends etc

I think you are right, Keane is the vehicle for a dig at someone else.[/QUOTE]

Are you completely deluded? His last book stated that he has no regrets over an absolutely vile career ending challenge on Haaland. When has he ever came out and said he was 100% wrong for Saipan and apologised. He’s deluded and your worship of the cunt makes you look like a doe-eyed kid as well as a retard.

[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1046542, member: 2272”]I will armchair diagnose Joe Brolly

He is a clever guy. A successful barrister. He falls into the trap lots of successful barristers make - he believes he is the smartest guy in the room. Every room. Every topic. He is so smart that if somebody has a different point of view to him that he dismisses it instantly as he sees things nobody else can see and understands what nobody else can understand.[/QUOTE]

Joe Brolly is Kev :eek: :eek: :eek: