Is this you putting everything down to S&C again? 
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Matthews > Cian OâNeill
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Your last three paragraphs support what a good job previous regime did. You are wrong on the joint injuries and bordering on defaming somebody.
Last year Cork hurling development squads won inter county tournaments at under 14, 15 and 16.
I called Cunningham out and was right.
Anyway we can revisit it in 3 years.
They won blitz. In some of those cases KK were split in 2, in others so were Tipp. As were Cork. Its an indicator of very little.
I saw the Cork Strength Programs. They were copied out of a Mens Health magazine. I also know they stopped strength training for vast periods. I also saw them train very many times.
A number of coaches involved would be fucked out of a half decent club. They demoralized a squad and a county. Not to mention the fact that its a very sifferent squad now. The 2013 squad had plenty quality and i believe had they a better set up they would have been very successful.
Really.
The All Ireland winner with a Phd is lesser than the weekend course injury machine bluffer?
Interesting.
Yes tactics, or lack of, played a part. Their apeed off the mark was notably poor.
Guess what improves that significantly?
CON was involved with Kerry and Tipp who won all Irelandâs with fantastically talented teams and TBH a bit of luck too.
DM trained a limited Cork team to within a minute of winning an AI.
The injury thing is an utter strawman as most IC teams now have injury lists over a number of years .
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Exactly. Cian OâNeill trained teams have all had their share of injuries (hamstring, knee etc) over the years. He presided over a disastrous 2016 for Kildare.
PLayers in both sides credit him with being a very central reason for success.
Are Clare limited?
This is about Cork and their All-Ireland win in next 3 years, their wonderful underage success and Mathews as a S&C Coach. Bringing up CON is both off topic and weird.
You are woefully uniformed on all 3 subjects. You are blowing on about a completely untested 19 year old. One player. You are blowing on about Corks wonderfull structures (where hardly anyone talks to each other) and you are on about teams winning weekend blitz as an indication of future success.
There are no structure at all in Cork.
I didnât bring up CON.
You responded to somebody else who did and you referred to DM injuries which are comparable if not better to CoN trained teams.
I also pointed out he was a disaster last year with Kildare. You have a bee in your bonnet about DM. You held up Cunnigham and CoN as shining examples and both have flopped as managers.
We have been over this before.
I made my prediction and time will tell if I am right.
Midleton beat Ard Scoil in the Harty. Two Cork teams in the semis, been a while.
The structures for underage hurling in Cork bearing fruit.
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If only every county could have a visionary like Frank at the helm.
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I only frank and John deleney ran the county we would be grand .
No structures. Nothing is changing.
I have no doubt he is a good trainer . I never said he wasnât but you seem to be implying that if he was training cork hurlers then theyâd never be hurt . IC training is attritional and as far as I see has a high injury count.
Clare are limited too but better than cork imho . That was not a great all Ireland as none of the semi finalists have set the world alight since .
How has CON failed? He was there one year.
On one hand a coach is doing a great job despite what he was handed but the same doesnât fit for CON.
There is absolutely no comparision between the injury records of those 2 people. They are not even in the same strasophere.
Which players?
I never said never hurt. Reduced. Thats all you can hope for. Impact is unavoidable.
The critical thing we look at in Sports Preperation is contact to non-contact injuries. Thats why DM is so exposed. Virtually all injuries were non contact.
But look at Dublins injury record, its unbelievable. As is Mayos. They have it nailed.