All players i heard talk about it, or i asked directly about it.
In other words anecdotal evidence that holds no weight. Did you note the number of Kerry players who had to have surgery in the off season after 2015 AI final?
Did you note Paul Galvin going on record making vague criticisms of the training in 2015?
teams coached by Cian OāNeill have not had high profile hamstring and cruciate injuries like all other IC teams. Tipperary, Kerry has torn hamstrings, cruciates. All teams do.
Most recently when CON had full control Kildare had numerous injuries last year.
Dublin had two cruciates in 2014. Another one in 2015. Medial ligament damage in 2016. Hamstring injuries and groin injuries last year.
3 cruciate injuries for Dublin football in two years. I recall you hammered DM when Joyce did his cruciate for Cork. That was only cruciate injury in his time there I am pretty sure.
Professional sports teams get injuries where players are fully cocooned and protected.
do ard scoil ris have lads doing a Paul Flynn on it and playing Harty cup into their mid 20ās?
None of your cherry pucked injuries match up with reality. You will have to list them out.
Agai though avoiding your weak argument.
Cork had 7 hamstring injuries, 2 should ops, an ACL and a MCL in 8 weeks in 2015. Not understanding load management being the main culprit.
Anyway, iām arguing with guys who have no clue whatsoever whats involved
At least they will be quick I suppose
Cherry picked?
We can all pick cherries like you did. Throw up the names of the players or what happened in 2013 or 2014.
so letās go for quick examples of Dublinās ACL and hamstring record
Cruciate
Tomas Brady - ACL - June 2013
Kevin OBrien - ACL - February 2014
Ciaran Kilkenny - ACL - March 2014
Eoghan oāgara - ACL - March 2015
Hamstring
Rory oācarroll - hamstring 2015
Dennis Bastick - hamstring 2014 and 15
Cian OāSullivan - hamstring 2015 and 2016
Paul Flynn - hamstring 2016, ongoing groin
Medial ligaments - Bastick, McCarthy
Fenton - shoulder 2015
Various other groin, Achilles, back, shoulder over last two years
Those Limerick lads have had the monopoly on mental mid winter misery bants far too long, nice to see us langers giving it a lash.
Nice move by @TheUlteriorMotive to throw out a grenade like that that everybody else will have forgotten but in the (you can never really rule Cork out for that long) unlikely chance it comes up heās lording it.
Again avoidance. Where are your stats on tipp, kerry, mayo injuries under CON? Kerrys high operation count was driven by Manager and physios. They made an absolute balls of Maher
For what its worth, i donāt think he is the best and
Were all Dublins ACLās non-contact?
Did all hamstring injuries cost them championship game time?
And all you are doing is emphasising DMās brutal record. He basically achieved in a few weeks what others took ywars to accumulate. Nobody expects no injuries. But not contact are avoidable.
You donāt know what you are looking for, thats the major issue here.
So when Cian OāNeill is involved itās the managers fault?
You canāt have it both ways?
Any opinion on the general consensus of Kerry fans re OāNeill and the high injury count with him in charge.
Yes. In a number of cases they were advised operations were not needed. They did them anyway.
Can you not join the dots?
Fitzmauice is pissed off over who gets credit for 2014. Said peoples suggestions fall on deaf ears. Said people get out of dodge at first chance for far less profile role. Media campaign against gone coach starts, partly using Manager brother in law.
You are thick as shit.
Paidi Se had it right about those Kerry fans.
They are fans. They are clueless generally
What proof have you of that?
You seem to be allergic to substantiated backup but an avid fan of baseless half cracked theories.
I actually had the Kerry physio have a childish crack at CON and Ed Coughlan on my facebook page one day when i posted an article. He took down some of it.
I have heard both sides of the story. It was well handled, but there was definitely an issue there.
As a pragmatist, I will require substantiated proof before my cynicism will be sated.
If you join the dots, Kerry players had a hell of a lot of big injuries during Cian OāNeillās time. I donāt know how you can have faith in him whilst slaughtering another S&C coach for injuries happening on his watch.
You try and overstate the importance of S&C, itās just one small cog in the wheel. A lot of players are just injury prone and itās just tough look. Brian McGuigan has said when interviewed that Stephen OāNeill and Philip Jordan would have done everything by the book yet they struggled big time with injuries in their career. Some things in life just cannot be controlled.
Youāre wrong. Tyrone were doing alot of mental training individually. While the management were looking after well at times with sometimes only 1 session a week some of them were off training themselves.
Not everything can be controlled.
S&C is the development of athleticism. Now are you telling me that athleticism isnāt a huge cog in the wheel? Good S&C Coaches manage the loads, they support the field coaches so they know exactly the stress and trauma being put on players thru the coaches games and drills. Really they are central to everything.
Kerry won with that. Then they didnāt like the praise he got.
Its gas the way cunts here with zero lives would be asking for affidavits to prove yours