The Official TFK Conor Popes Pricewatch Thread

A close encounter of the abusive kind at front door
CONOR POPE
F**king pig,” the salesman shouted as I closed my front door after declining to sign up for a service he’d done a spectacularly bad job of convincing me I needed. The words had me transfixed. I stood on one side of the door holding a baby as he stood on the other holding a grudge.

I was at a loss as to what I was supposed to do next. The drama had started shortly after 6pm with the ringing of my door bell. It rings so infrequently that I can’t recall the last time it chimed – it’s more of a raspy burr, really – to herald the arrival of someone or something pleasant. So I tend to tense when it rasps.

Not as much Toby, however. Toby is a small dog with a big bark and nothing sets him off quite as loudly as the doorbell. To answer the door, I had to scoop the baby up and shimmy into the hall through a crack in the door wide enough to accommodate a man and infant but too narrow for a small dog.

Having achieved this physics-defying act, I opened the front door in time to be greeted by a hard-faced, beanie-wearing man in his late 30s. He launched into his patter and told me he was from some quasi-official-sounding body like “the electricity and gas board” or “the broadband and network utility”. He asked me who my existing supplier was and he didn’t show any ID.

Suspicious
I was suspicious. I knew no such organisation existed and – with a howling Hound of the Battervilles behind one door and a baby insufficiently dressed to be exposed to the elements standing in front of another one – I cut into his spiel in a not hugely polite manner.

“What company are you from?”

“What? I told you. I’m from . . .” He said the name of a company.

“You should have properly identified yourself from the start,” I said. “And where’s your ID?

He waved ID vaguely in my direction and broke into his patter again, telling me that a provider I wasn’t with was about to increase its prices but if I switched to his company I’d avoid a lot of financial pain through the winter.

Now what he didn’t know is that I know quite a bit about the world in which he operates and a lot more about the company he represents than he knew – and possibly more about it than he did.

I said I wasn’t interested. He persisted. With the dog at risk of a barking-related aneurysm and a baby now bored by the beanie-hatted man and anxious to explore the great outdoors wearing nothing more than a nappy and vest, the conversation needed to end. So I said – in a manner that was brusque – “Sorry, didn’t you hear me? I don’t want to switch.” And I moved to close the door.

“There’s no need to be rude about it,” he responded as the door closed on him. And once it had shut fully he shouted, “F**king pig!”

Anger management
He was raging as was I. This man had called to my home at dinner time and used subterfuge and dodgy tactics to try and sign me up to a bad-value service before calling me a “f**king pig”.

I considered releasing the hound, but looked at tiny Toby and decided against it. I thought about opening the door and remonstrating with him further but he was bigger than me, with anger management issues and, potentially, a violent streak. And didn’t I have a baby in my arms?

So I returned to my livingroom, violated and in a powerless rage. Except I wasn’t powerless. In fact I had all the power. I could take to social media and tell tens of thousands of people, including his employer, about my experience. That would show him. Or, I thought, I could contact his employer directly and give them the details of the incident.

But then I thought some more. I could do both those things and either one would see him – probably – lose his job. And it’s a tough job. Selling anything door-to-door on a dark winter’s evening and dealing with grumpy people – people like me – can’t be easy. And it can’t be well paid. I’d no idea what road he had taken to get to this point in his life or if he was dealing with some trauma or had had a bad day, a day I could make a whole lot worse.

But what if it wasn’t a bad day? What if he was just a bad person? What if he routinely used intimidation and dodgy sales tactics to target vulnerable people to get them to sign up to a service that was not in their best interests. What if he called everyone a “f**king pig”?

I was conflicted. I still am conflicted. I didn’t want to let it lie but I didn’t want to ruin this guy’s life and put what was already a miserable job at risk over a stupid spat. So in the end, I did nothing.

I hope it was the right thing to do.

“Iconic”. Jesus wept…

He’d fit right in around here

that conor pope is a fucking creep

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youd want your head examined to be in a workplace with kitty Holland, screaming mulally and fintan o’foole, either that or be a creep.

Spot on. He comes across as an utter cunt of a man

Nearly a full page today on a tale of dry cleaning

‘Armageddon for our nice wardrobe’: Tourists angry at dry-cleaning mix-up

A trip to Dublin was ruined by a laundry service and a hotel between them managing to forget the ‘dry’ in dry cleaning
Conor Pope
A chap by the name of Christian Muller travelled to Dublin with his wife recently but “what was planned as the trip of the year turned out to be a total nightmare,” he writes adding that while he was all set “to have a great time and wanted to enjoy the lovely city” he ended up having to “struggle with an abysmal performance of a self-declared professional dry cleaning service and their successful attempt at destroying our clothing”.
But he was getting ahead of himself and after his arresting introduction he went back to the beginning.
“When I was invited to a conference at UCD earlier this year, my wife and I thought that this was the sign we had been waiting for. We always wanted to go to Ireland but living abroad we never really had the opportunity. Now we decided to use the conference as an excuse to finally visit beautiful Dublin.”
The couple flew into “windy Dublin on a Wednesday”. They had a great time with the “friendly taxi driver who gave us a city tour while he took us to St Stephen’s Green” and were relaxed as they went to their room in Stauntons on the Green.
Christian tells us that was a “perfect start to the trip” and he waxes lyrical about a dinner they had in the city centre that night. “We heard so many lovely things about the city, the food and the people from our Irish friends that we were excited to wander around and be in [Dublin}. We were celebrating our wedding anniversary and booked different tours and lovely restaurants to share. The plan seemed perfect!”
But things were about to go awry.
“Having travelled a lot, we normally try to use dry cleaning services in the hotels to get key items cleaned,” he says. “The reception staff were very clear about giving our clothes to a dry cleaning service but it did not dawn upon us that the ‘dry’ in cleaning would repeatedly slip the mind of the reception staff – cleaning was all the staff would understand, even when we said ‘DRY cleaning, please’,” he writes.
He says they asked for the dry cleaning service as indicated in the information on the hotel’s brochure “specifically the Laundry Service/Dry Cleaning”.
He said they normally do not travel with very expensive items but “this time was special and we had booked some romantic dinners at Dublin’s excellent restaurants (of which there are many).” As a result they had a couple of pretty pricey items that they wanted to have dry cleaned.
He says that what happened next “turned out to be Armageddon for our nice wardrobe”.
He says the “front desk lady asked us to provide our clothes for dry cleaning in hotel bags used for taking to the cleaners”.
He insists that he “repeatedly” made it clear he was looking for his clothes to be dry-cleaned and says that when he asked if he needed to “fill out a service sheet/paper to indicate which kind of dry cleaning service we needed” he was told “that handing over the bags with the clothes inside was good enough”.
Hot water
So he put four items – a Burberry Midnight Trench Coat worth €1,500, a red Valentino blouse valued at €250, a Moncler mohair jumper worth €400 and a Moss Bros. jacket with a price tag of €160 – into a bag and dropped it to reception.
When the items came back “it became clear that the reception . . . had sent all items to a laundry shop that offered both dry cleaning and washing, but with the request to wash them. We were taken aback. How can a hotel be so careless as to not understand the difference between dry cleaning and washing, but also, how can a so-called professional laundry service wash items in a machine with hot water (notably together – a coat, a suit, a cashmere pullover and a delicate blouse, all in different colours) that clearly scream from their tags: DRY CLEANING ONLY, DO NOT WASH? Only a complete unprofessional would even think of washing those items, let alone wash them all together in one cycle and then dry them in the same cycle,” he says.
He said he and his wife had to cancel most of their planned trips and tours as well as the restaurants in order to deal with the issue.
“We kept repeating that we were leaving on Sunday and we needed a definite answer and the replacement or compensation of all of our items before that.”
No resolution was to be found.
Christian says that when he eventually got to speak to the laundry company’s manager he “yelled that he was not going to respond for the lack of professionalism and mistreatment of our four items. His company did as instructed, namely washing and tumble-drying expensive clothing suited for dry cleaning only into oblivion.”
Christian says that he and his wife have been left “with sad and mixed feeling. While we so much looked forward to experiencing the lovely city, its flair and its people from the best of sides that Dublin has to offer – and indeed offered us at every corner, in every shop, in every restaurant and just down the street – we are thunderstruck by the damage” to the clothes.
Second try
He said they will return to Dublin to give the city and its people, and in fact the whole of Ireland a second try, as “we believe that Dublin is a lovely city that has welcomed us. . . . But we will not forget the damage done by the two businesses who gave us such pain on a trip that was supposed to be an escape from the grim everyday.”
It all sounds very upsetting and we have great sympathy for Christian and his wife.
While much of his understandable anger is directed at the laundry service, we are not convinced it is actually to blame for the clothes Armageddon unless, that is, a specific request for the items to be dry cleaned was made.
That does not appear to be the case. While common sense would also suggest that the staff in the laundrette should have taken a look at the items and deduced that washing and tumble drying a wax jacket and a cashmere jumper in the same load was not a good idea, someone should have made it clear to them and not relied on common sense to prevail. In our experience common sense is frequently in short supply.
Realistically, the only people who could have made it clear to the laundry service that the items were dry clean only were Stauntons on the Green staff. That did not happen. Maybe that was because there had been a miscommunication between them and their guest or maybe he did not make it sufficiently clear that the clothes were dry-clean only.
We contacted the hotel and a spokesman confirmed that the clothes had been damaged and said that communication with our reader was ongoing and he was hopeful the hotel would be able to reach a resolution our reader would be happy with in the very near future.

Sounds like a right cunt

the wife gets a couple of grands worth of clothes and hes stuck with a shitty moss bros jacket :smiley:

he fails to realize that he sent his money to a front for the Kinnehans and would do well to stop bad mouthing the laundrette’s/dry cleaners of Ireland

anyone got the full article?

Supermarkets are happy to spend a lot of money working out the best ways to get us to spend ours and they have been doing it in this country almost since they were born way back in the 1950s.

November is Food Month in The Irish Times. irishtimes.com/foodmonth

November is Food Month in The Irish Times. irishtimes.com/foodmonth

From the moment you pull into a parking space on the way to pick up a few bits to the moment you drive away with a car full of stuff you did not really intend to buy at all you most likely have been bombarded with all manner of psychological devices and tricks artfully deployed to ensure someone gets the best out of your shopping experience.

That someone is not always you.

1. Big retail chains do not like to give stuff away, except when it comes to parking spaces. They will fall over themselves to make room for your car at no cost because they know that if you can find a place to park without having to worry about racking up charges you are likely to be more relaxed when you are wandering the aisles. And they know that a relaxed shopper is a spendier one.

2. Some shops are designed a bit like the Hotel California in that they are easy to enter and almost impossible to leave. That is not an accident. Shoppers are channelled through one door which only opens inwards so they can’t go back out the way they came. The only way out once they past a point of no return is to pass through the tills but all the checkout lanes not in use are blocked off. That means that if you go into a shop and then decide you don’t actually want anything the options are to either limbo under or climb over the barriers at the closed checkout lanes or barge past people in the queue – tricky enough in these socially distanced times. The other alternative is to surrender and buy something and then queue to pay for it like everything else.

3. In virtually every supermarket in the world, the first thing you see when you walk through the doors is the brightly coloured fruit and vegetables and the freshly cut flowers. After that you will be greeted by the bread. There are a couple of reasons for this. For a start, the brightly coloured displays and the scent of the flowers improve out moods – sometimes this improvement is imperceptible but every tiny shift counts. When we are in better form we tend to spend more money. The aromas from the fresh food and freshly baked bread – or the artificially generated aromas oftentimes – will make us just that little bit hungrier than we might have been. And if we are hungrier we will spend more money. There is a third reason. When we put the healthy food in the trolley at the beginning of our shopping journey we are more likely to put the less healthy but perhaps more expensive food in the trolley later in our shop.

4. Speaking of trolleys, you might have noticed they’ve been getting bigger in recent years. The boffins who work so hard to shape our shopping experiences to their employers advantage know that when trolleys are bigger we put more stuff in them. If they increase the size of a shopping trolley by 100 per cent, people will buy 20 per cent more – that is why the average size of a trolley in the US has doubled over the last 20 years. There is more to the science of carrying than that mind you. Around three-quarters of the people who pick up a basket will definitely buy something in a supermarket compared with less than one-third of those who wander the aisles with their hands free. Oh and people who use the deep plastic containers with wheels instead of a humble basket will spend more money.

5. Staying with trolleys for just a few seconds longer, have you ever noticed the wheels of your trolley jarring slightly as they pass over the odd ridge in a supermarket floor? Those ridges are not there because the supermarket employed a dodgy tradesman to lay their floors. They are there to slow you down. The supermarket scientists know that when the flooring is completely smooth people shop faster but by doing something as simple as putting a few bumps in our road, we are inclined to ease back ever so slightly.

6. Many supermarkets have dispensed with windows. Like Las Vegas casinos they don’t really want people to be aware of the outside world or the fact that you went into the shop in blazing sunshine and now it is dark and you are still only half way through your shop. It should also be noted that building an ugly, windowless block of a supermarket out of wood and concrete and corrugated iron is much cheaper than building something nice looking with fancy things like windows.

7. The staples almost everyone buys are never close together. The meat will be in one corner of the shop, the vegetables and bread in another and then, in the far off distance you will see the dairy section while miles further along the road lie the cleaning products. The thinking is that if they can space out the stuff that they know the vast majority of shoppers will put into their now ludicrously outsized trolley then there are more opportunities to tempt those shoppers to buy things the most likely don’t really need.

8. Frequently reconfiguring a supermarket’s layout is not an accident it is a design. Occasionally moving the things we like to buy means we have to work harder to find them and spend more time walking aisles we might otherwise be happy to ignore. The greatest offender is the humble egg. They move around the shop floor so often you might be forgiven for thinking they were about to hatch. They are ideal for the cunning shopkeeper because they know we will keep looking for them until we find them and they neither take up too much display space or have to be refrigerated.

9. The dairy section is also deployed as a weapon in the war on our wallets. Dairy products are almost always at the very back of the shop. This is sometimes because loading bays are at the back of the shop, so by putting dairy close to there it means it has to travel shorter distances between trucks and refrigerators. That makes sense. But the other reason you see the milk and butter as far from the front door as possible is because they are known as “destination items”. They are the products you go into the shops for and the ones you need to go into the shops for most frequently. By positioning them at the back of the shop you have no choice but to walk all the way through the shop and past things you might be tempted to buy.

10. We know that retailers like to waft the – sometimes real, sometimes fake – smell of freshly baking bread through the air-conditioning system. But there is more going on than that these days. There are smells created in labs that can burst from an actual product when you open it that will create the impression the product is better than it might be. It is possible, for example, to make instant coffee smell like a high end coffee shop at the precise moment the jar is just opened. The smell quickly disappears obviously. But the first impression has been made and it is a good one.

11. Sometimes the tricks don’t even have to be all that clever. Retailers know that shoppers like stickers and tend to connect them to bargains. They also know that some colours work better than others. So if we see a big red sticker with a price on it and the suggestion that we are getting a deal we are more inclined to buy it over a possibly better value product that is stickerless beside it. Bear that in mind next time you see a sticker telling you that X product is “Now only €2.99” or whatever. Unless you can see a before discount and after discount price then you are probably not getting the bargain you think you are.

12. And even if you see a product that is promising you a substantial discount then you should always be a bit wary. If a retailer has crossed out one price and replaced it with a cheaper one, then whatever they are selling must have been on sale in the same shop, or a significant number of outlets in the case of a chain, at the higher price “for a reasonable time”. Sadly, when the people who wrote the law were writing it, they forgot to include any definition of what a “reasonable time” is, which is not very helpful.

The Competition and Consumer Protection Commission says a product “should only be advertised as a discounted price for the same amount of time as it was available at the previous higher price”. This would stop a supermarket upping price of a certain product from €5 to €20 for one day and then putting it on “sale” at €10 for three months. They can, however, stock a single bottle of a particular wine at €30 for a month and then flood the shop with the same wine with a price of €15 and claim it is a half-price sale. And does it matter if the wine is only worth a tenner? Sadly not.

13. Supermarkets know shoppers tend to reach for products when they are placed at eye level on our supermarket shelves. It is probably a coincidence that eye level is where they tend to position the most expensive products, right? Supermarkets win on the double because they also charge suppliers more for better positioning and those charges get passed on to shoppers. So it is us who we end up paying a premium so we don’t have to bend down or reach up for our products. We have never actually tried the following but we have a sneaking suspicion that if we were to only chose products from the top shelf and the bottom shelf the cost of our supermarket shop would fall.

14. Have you ever wondered why the conveyor belts at the tills in your local market are getting longer? It is most notable in an Aldi or a Lidl. We have heard suggestions that this is because we believe our queuing is at an end when we start loading our stuff on to the belt, even if the shopping of four other people is sitting in mountains ahead of us on the same belt. We have put this to the discounters on more than one occasions and they deny this. But then they wouldn’t be secrets if they told us about them now would they?

15. There is also a reason the corridors supermarkets push us through as we get ready to pay are narrow and empty of shelf space. Retailers don’t want to make it easy for us to discard things we decide, on mature reflection, we don’t need as we wait in line. But if we can’t find anywhere to dump the stuff we now longer want then there is a good chance are we will just end up buying it.

  1. Retailers love it when we buy more – and bigger – multipacks. That is not because they love offering us the best value – despite what they will tell you – but because they want everyone to consume more. If a six-pack of a fizzy drink becomes a 12-pack people will drink considerably more of it because it is in the house. If you buy a bag of 12 packets of Tayto you are going to eat more Tayto than you probably should – and we say that as big fans of Tayto…

17. It is a fact that people who chose two-for one deals buy more than they intend to. There are stats which show that this very simple offer so beloved of supermarkets will see sales jump by as much as 150 per cent.

18. Many good supermarkets – led by the late Feargal Quinn in Superquinn a long, long time ago – got have got rid of the sweets at the checkouts. They did this to reduce the impact of pester power and to take a bit of pressure of parents who were rarely delighted to have sweets within easy reach of small hands at the end of a long tiring shopping journey. Next time you are in the shops look at the stock closest to the tills. You will see a lot of glossy magazines and gadgets – stuff you don’t need but might buy because you are bored with all the queueing.

19. You know the way the chocolate – and the booze – aisles are always near the end of the route the supermarket wants you to take through their shop? The shops know that by that point in your supermarket sweep you are most likely tired and tired of shopping and more inclined to reward yourself with treats. The best way to combat this – and many of their other tricks – is to reverse the direction of your shop. So start with an empty trolley at the booze and treat aisle and finish at the fruit and vegetables. You’ll be surprised at the difference it makes. Apart from anything else you might be reluctant to have four bottles of wine an a multi-pack of Maltesers as the first things in your trolley.

20. Oh, and if you ever find yourself in a drinks section that looks markedly different to the rest of the shop – maybe with wooden floors and softer lighting and autumnal colours there is a reason for that too. It is the retailers attempt to create a sense of occasion, to hint – in a subtle fashion – that you are no longer in a grotty supermarket but in a lovely country house or a private member’s club and, as a result, less likely to question the prices you are being asked to pay for the wine or whiskey.

21. Loyalty cards have their place but they will rarely actually save you money. By signing up to a loyalty scheme you give your chosen supermarket a vast amount of information about you which they can use to draw a terrifyingly accurate picture of who you are and what you like. That is grand if you are getting discounts on things you want but many such schemes try and offer people discounts on products they rarely buy to make the schemes seem better than they are. Oh, and as many as 50 per cent of us spend more in a shop once we have a loyalty card under the mistaken belief that the more we spend the more we will save.

22. Supermarkets are very good at making us behave in ways that work to their benefit without us even realising it. One of the key tricks is price anchoring. This sees a retailer place three similar products side by side on a shelf with three very different price points of, for example, €2, €5 and €9. Most shoppers will avoid the cheapest and the dearest option and go for the middle option. It may be that that is the best value for money. But equally we could be being manipulated into spending more than we need to and thinking we are getting value by not spending as much as we could.

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Consumer affairs expert, books extortinately priced holiday needing to use two credit cards to pay for it. Rather than being mortified, writes article about it.

My old man’s adage of “everywhere you find an ass - ride it” applies here. What a flute……
Then this bollix is the nation’s point-man when it comes to saving money. Eddie Hobbs ll.

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What does he get paid for article ?

I was reading this yesterday. How the hell did he end up spending €900 in Super Valu over two trips in a week or whatever it was and not buy booze?!

If he’s worried about money what’s he doing in supervalu at all

Yep. If they charge it and people are stupid enough/loaded enough and prepared to pay for it, more power to them…

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He has to pay off the cards mate.
I can’t understand the hate for Conor pope, other than the usual tfk scattergun misanthropy

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He does, he’s supposed to be a consumer advice expert, part of which would surely be, don’t use a fucking credit card to buy things you can’t afford. not to mind two credit cards :joy:

I have no real issue with Pope.