The Official TFK Ireland 1912-1923 Thread

Must be a great source of pride to Fine Gael supporters in the Queens County to see one of their own, Charlie Flanagan, taking such a courageous stance and putting it up to the Republican rabble rousers.

I’m happy to discover that I live in a country where people still have some self-respect and I’m also happy to live in a country where Charlie Flanagan is publicly humiliated but the following occurs to me:-

  1. I don’t understand how this is any different than acknowledging the Irish war-dead in the British Imperial Army during WW1. It’s not as bad as the President wearing a poppy. In fact, the thought suddenly occurs to me now that the poppy commemorates the Black and Tans.

  2. I don’t understand how this is any different than adding the names of those killed by the IRA during the War of Independence to the Garden of Remembrance (or where ever it was) last year. That shit was far worse and IIRC Fianna Fail endorsed it and attacked SF for opposing it on the grounds that SF was immature and divisive. Might there be an election coming soon?

  3. I think this business of saying that Leo can call himself a true republican again will turn us into a nation of virtue-signallers and cowards, afraid to properly explore our history for fear of doctrinal impurity. He made a misjudgment but I thought we were better than that.

  4. I think RTE should commission Ferriter to make a documentary on the history of the RIC. I’m reasonably bright but I’ve learned a lot the past day or so. I’ve learned that the DMP were unarmed and more of a regular police force. They were never exactly disbanded but instead were amalgamated into the Guards, despite their fairly Unionist ethos. Dublin was a fairly unionist city of course. And I’ve learned that the rest of the country didn’t have a proper normal police force and the RIC of course were completely disbanded. It would be very good to have a documentary that interviews the descendants of the RIC men. A lot of them would have republican heritage as well and it would be interesting to hear from them. The risk would be that RTE would commission some Stickie piece of trash.

Apologies for my long post and pedantic bullet points.

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We have a descendent of an RIC Officer in our midst here - @TheUlteriorMotive.

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Explains why he is a footix

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Thinks he’s from Liverpool sure

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My great grandfather was in the RIC

He left it and disowned the force and later served as a judge in the Dail Courts

His son was organising IRA dances a few years later

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I don’t regard commemorating the RIC as a necessary step in the creation of a 32-county republic that’s welcoming to those of an orange persuasion. The latter can surely be achieved without recourse to the former. I personally wouldn’t give the time of day to such a commemoration but I’d gladly hold out my hand in friendship and respect to most orange bastards.

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The language used was wrong for an event that was broaching a difficult subject like this for the first time.
A word like commemoration sends the wrong signal and perhaps a more delicate wording and framing of the event could have paved the way for a bigger, more inclusive event at the end of the centenaries.

Have an academic/conference type event as suggested by the advisory group, hold other events that look at what happened in the round, and then perhaps at the very end hold some sort of joint “commemoration”.

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There’s a poster on the forum who wrote a thesis on law and order in the 19th century… You should reach out to him. Ferriter has enough money.

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Mr E Harris?

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What a fucking wanker

Fintan Tool

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Does he ever stop preaching from his pulpit ?