The Race for a Vaccine. The Road to Demaskus

arenā€™t those models based on the assumption that everyone got the virus?

You are trying to say Gupta was correct because she didnā€™t get it as wrong as Feguson. Trump levels of bullshit.

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Agreed.

The 510,000 deaths was based on 80% of the population getting infected.

pie in the sky figures

You should really stop as itā€™s clear you havenā€™t learned anything in the past 8 months. Try and read what I have written rather than what you think I have written for a start. I didnā€™t say Gupta or anyone elseā€™s models were correct (they are all estimates, based on assumptions), but Fergusonā€™s models were wildly off the mark. She was correct in pointing this out.

Similar to his projections that millions would die of mad cow disease, a nutter.

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The Russians had their one months back. Why did the west not give it the fanfare it deserved?

Is she responsible for the State of Israel?

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Yes :joy:

It actually wasnā€™t. All it was was her team using some data being thrown around at the time to infer an estimated spread of the virus to that point. Given the impact of T Cells, it was actually far closer to the truth than anything else.

In terms of the Great Barrington. It was never about ā€œletting it ripā€.

There were some problematic elements to it, for example it did not have a good answer for multi generational households. It also required logistical jumps, like using people previously exposed to the virus only in care homes. But we are all in the land of the crazy at this stage, no matter the strategy.

He has history of making dire, completely unrealistic predictions. Itā€™s good for wider society that he has been discredited

Well his modelling team are still all over it actually.

Whatā€™s also interesting is that the Imperial College actually got it right in one of their scenarios. Although their mortality rate was way off the mark, they did contrast slowing the spread versus a harsh lockdown. They recommended against slowing the spread due to the 250k death projection. But in the harsher lockdown scenario they also warned that once interventions were relaxed it could result in a second wave in the winter months, which is what has unfolded.

A lot will depend on whether they have a vaccine that can be stored in a fridge, or needs minus 70.
If a fridge, 20k per day should be easy.

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The Pfizer one is by far the most expensive and by far the more logistically extremely difficult one.
Should use the Oxford one.

Iā€™ll wait 2 years or so, just until the scientists understand what they are dealing with.

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I didnā€™t mention Ferguson once. You did to make Guptaā€™s figures appear less laughable. Gupta pulled random figures from her arse and was badly wrong.

As I said read both studies, as clearly you havenā€™t, and continue to talk through your arse. You cannot access the merits of the Oxford study without reviewing Fergusonā€™s study, it was done in response to it.

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I have better things to be doing than reading two reports that are riddled with inaccuracies.