The Race for a Vaccine. The Road to Demaskus

Does Long Covid only really impact fat, lazy people?

1 Like

A nice excuse to take it handy in training all the same.

I’m not sure 3 weeks is enough to declare Long Covid for them.

Can’t be declared definitively until they have to put chilli in their porridge

:grin::grin::grin:

Is that when it takes you a while to get over the flu?
The only person I know with long covid has stopped talking about her ME

1 Like

Particularly in the early months of vaccination, many activities should wait, experts say — and plan to keep your masks.

Dec. 21, 2020

With distribution of a coronavirus vaccine beginning in the U.S., here are answers to some questions you may be wondering about:

  • If I live in the U.S., when can I get the vaccine? While the exact order of vaccine recipients may vary by state, most will likely put medical workers and residents of long-term care facilities first. If you want to understand how this decision is getting made, this article will help.
  • When can I return to normal life after being vaccinated? Life will return to normal only when society as a whole gains enough protection against the coronavirus. Once countries authorize a vaccine, they’ll only be able to vaccinate a few percent of their citizens at most in the first couple months. The unvaccinated majority will still remain vulnerable to getting infected. A growing number of coronavirus vaccines are showing robust protection against becoming sick. But it’s also possible for people to spread the virus without even knowing they’re infected because they experience only mild symptoms or none at all. Scientists don’t yet know if the vaccines also block the transmission of the coronavirus. So for the time being, even vaccinated people will need to wear masks, avoid indoor crowds, and so on. Once enough people get vaccinated, it will become very difficult for the coronavirus to find vulnerable people to infect. Depending on how quickly we as a society achieve that goal, life might start approaching something like normal by the fall 2021.
  • If I’ve been vaccinated, do I still need to wear a mask? Yes, but not forever. Here’s why. The coronavirus vaccines are injected deep into the muscles and stimulate the immune system to produce antibodies. This appears to be enough protection to keep the vaccinated person from getting ill. But what’s not clear is whether it’s possible for the virus to bloom in the nose — and be sneezed or breathed out to infect others — even as antibodies elsewhere in the body have mobilized to prevent the vaccinated person from getting sick. The vaccine clinical trials were designed to determine whether vaccinated people are protected from illness — not to find out whether they could still spread the coronavirus. Based on studies of flu vaccine and even patients infected with Covid-19, researchers have reason to be hopeful that vaccinated people won’t spread the virus, but more research is needed. In the meantime, everyone — even vaccinated people — will need to think of themselves as possible silent spreaders and keep wearing a mask. Read more here.
  • Will it hurt? What are the side effects? The Pfizer and BioNTech vaccine is delivered as a shot in the arm, like other typical vaccines. The injection into your arm won’t feel different than any other vaccine, but the rate of short-lived side effects does appear higher than a flu shot. Tens of thousands of people have already received the vaccines, and none of them have reported any serious health problems. The side effects, which can resemble the symptoms of Covid-19, last about a day and appear more likely after the second dose. Early reports from vaccine trials suggest some people might need to take a day off from work because they feel lousy after receiving the second dose. In the Pfizer study, about half developed fatigue. Other side effects occurred in at least 25 to 33 percent of patients, sometimes more, including headaches, chills and muscle pain. While these experiences aren’t pleasant, they are a good sign that your own immune system is mounting a potent response to the vaccine that will provide long-lasting immunity.
  • Will mRNA vaccines change my genes? No. The vaccines from Moderna and Pfizer use a genetic molecule to prime the immune system. That molecule, known as mRNA, is eventually destroyed by the body. The mRNA is packaged in an oily bubble that can fuse to a cell, allowing the molecule to slip in. The cell uses the mRNA to make proteins from the coronavirus, which can stimulate the immune system. At any moment, each of our cells may contain hundreds of thousands of mRNA molecules, which they produce in order to make proteins of their own. Once those proteins are made, our cells then shred the mRNA with special enzymes. The mRNA molecules our cells make can only survive a matter of minutes. The mRNA in vaccines is engineered to withstand the cell’s enzymes a bit longer, so that the cells can make extra virus proteins and prompt a stronger immune response. But the mRNA can only last for a few days at most before they are destroyed.

The Chinese bastards are having a good laugh at the west. They started it with their rotten food culture and eradicated it with their authoritarian culture and are back to normal… We’re pissing about with vaccines that we still know little about

2 Likes

I won’t be taking any vaccine anyway.

They can fuck off. Will get an auld GP to sign me off on the vaccination certificate if I absolutely have to.

These are the sort of chaps that will bring it all down. They need to be dealt with forcefully and swiftly.

Sure you’ll be vaccinated - surely be no fear of you.

I’ll do my own thing. If that irks your establishment mind, happy days.

You’re a dangerous man.

Vaccinated people can become the spreaders to those of us who won’t take it . I will continue to wear a mask and fight crime. Just like batman .

Make sure you wear the mask just below your nose Bill. I find that works a treat. :grin:

1 Like

Over 80s take a chance and roll the dice . Young healthy people shouldn’t be participating in this experiment .

Its similar to a bad flu, I never took the flu vaccine and relied on my immune system over the years.

Not going to change that now. They can fuck off with their mRNA shite.

RTE and the likes have just upped the ante ahead of the vaccine rollout. By all means take it if thats what you want to do, I won’t be forced though.

1 Like

Ya never got the flu jab , never will .ya rte will get some milage out of this . Why are we not buying off russia which is selling a dose less than half the price .

They’re not calling it the new normal for nothing.

The transfer of wealth is awful as well. I refuse to shop online myself personally. Going into town tomorrow and I’ll spend a nice few bob.

Table booked for dinner at 3.30 for the wedding anniversary. Anyone with a pub licence may as well throw their hat at it now. They’re done which is sad.

Behaviour has already changed really. Maybe thats a good thing in the longterm.

2 Likes

3 Likes