The Regulator (state employee) v Sean Quinn (bankrupt businessman) + Anglo Irish (state bankrupt ban

The distant future
The year 2000
The distant future, the year 2000
The distant future
The distant future

The future is quite different to the present
The one thing we have in common with the present is we still call it the present, even though it’s the future
What you call the present we call the past, so you guys are way behind

Yes, the world is quite different now
There are no more elephants
There is no more unethical treatment of elephants either
The world is a much better place

There are no more unions
Finally, corporate beings rule the world
The unions are dead
The unions are dead
We used poisonous gases
And we poisoned their ****
The unions are dead (he’s right they are dead)
The unions are dead (look at that one it’s dead)
It had to be done (I’ll just confirm that they’re dead)
So that we could have fun (affirmative, I poked one, it was dead)

System of aggression
What did it lead to?
Global depression
Corporations ruled by people
They got so much aggression that we just had to kill them, had to shut their systems down…

Can’t we just talk to the unions?
A little understanding could make things better.
Can’t we talk to the unions and work together now?
No, because they are dead
I said the unions are dead (he’s right they are dead)
The unions are dead (sniff this one it’s dead)
We used poisonous gasses (with traces of lead)
And we poisoned their **** (actally, their lungs)

A shower of gangsters in there too.

They postponed leaving Naas until 09:15.
Anybody affected by it?

It was hardly that complicated. Besides how do you know that his mother didn’t assist in the drafting of the post?

[size=“5”]Dumper truck left blocking entrance to Quinn offices[/size]

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A LARGE dumper truck has been driven into bollards at the entrance to the Co Fermanagh head offices of the Quinn Group.

The incident, which took place just after midnight yesterday, blocked the entrance to the Derrylin headquarters.

“Police in Enniskillen are investigating criminal damage caused to the front of commercial premises in Derrylin,” the PSNI said.

“At 12.30am a large earth-moving vehicle has been driven into bollards at the front of the property and abandoned, causing damage to the bollards.”

Last week, founder Seán Quinn was removed from his management position at the group by Anglo Irish Bank, which is owed €2.88 billion by the Quinn family.

A spokesman for umbrella organisation Concerned Irish Businesses said: “Quinn Group was built by Seán Quinn over a period of 37 years and, during that time, personal relationships were built with customers, suppliers and staff alike.

“Those relationships were broken as of last Thursday, a day when over 90,000 signatures who had pledged their support for Seán Quinn were handed into relevant authorities. However, those in authority failed to recognise these people, and their wishes.”

The new management team installed at the group were yesterday investigating threats against staff and evidence of potential industrial sabotage.A fibre-optic cable was severed yesterday afternoon between the head office at Derrylin and the group’s nearby cement plant.

A threat was also made to a member of staff who repaired the cable. He was advised to mind his personal security as a “traitor”. A second cable was later cut.
A major customer has withdrawn a substantial order but said that the decision could be reversed if a humane deal was done with Mr Quinn in relation to his house and his children’s employment and a cash settlement agreed.

A man claiming to be from accountancy firm KPMG – which was appointed share receiver by Anglo over the Quinn family’s shares in the group – contacted managers at the group’s hotels in Cambridge and Nottingham in the UK saying that they should cease trading immediately.

Another person purporting to be a KPMG employee contacted the general manager at the group’s Elton glass plant, calling for a meeting to discuss the restructuring of the business and its sale.

A spokesman for the Quinn family said that Mr Quinn had been contacted indirectly by the receiver appointed by Anglo – through executives at the group – to see if he could use his influence to have the dumper truck removed and that Mr Quinn had agreed to help.

There is no suggestion that Mr Quinn or any of his family were aware of these developments or had any involvement

  • Surely the dumper truck incident was secondary to the other weird shit going on? :lol: Has the 'RA decided to take over? Is Sean Quinn the only guy who believes he can make back the guts of the €3 billion he owes the tax payer? “Just give me more time…whinge”. The beatification of this guy by his delusional followers is staggering.

Couple of cunts approached me outside Tesco in Carrick on Shannon looking me to sign a petition to save Quinn. I politely refused to sign it to which they gave me a dirty look and muttered an ‘ok then’.

The prick took gambles to make himself even richer from his already filthy rich position. He lost. Tough shit.

That said, I agree with the course of action taken of removing Quinn but still maintaining the businesses. He was a huge employer.

How could a man who was obviously very clever, given the range of businesses he built up, allow himself to be so massively over-exposed on one investment? Was Seanie Fitz the Pied Piper of Hamelin or something?

Jusr greed Runt, and a power trip of course. That’s the thing that amazes me actually the fact that all these supposedly smart guys did not lay off some of their risk.

there was a bit at the end of the story that was a statement saying the state had ignored the wishes of 90 thousand people. Just as well, as it was carrying out the wishes of the other 5.5 m people in the state

Not to mention his golden circle transactions.

Taking a loan from Anglo to buy shares in Anglo so as to maintain its floundering share price.

That’s just not dumb, that is criminal.

Hopefully we’ll find out if it was.

Think you have got the population figures wrong there

Quinn has noone to blame but himself. Had the feeling when this thread was started that some stroke would be used to save him eventually. Thankfully it hasn’t come to that. The insurance company will be an attractive proposition in the market, the manufacturing plants less so

KIB Man, please check out the apologies thread.

Thank you.

his CFDs amplified his losses on Anglo
(and Anglo went from ca. €18 per share to pennies)

it wasn’t enough he was making money on the shares, he wanted more money and more quickly than the share price was going up.

a well repeated tale, he made money in a business that he understood and lost it in a business that he didn’t

even drumm and fitzgerald thought his financial dealings were madness. says it all really.

[size=“6”]Insurance levy to pay for €620m Quinn loss[/size]

By Emmet Oliver Deputy Business Editor

Tuesday April 26 2011

Consumers will be hit with a levy on their car and house insurance to make up for a shortfall of €620m from the collapse of Quinn Insurance, the Irish Independent has learnt.

Anglo Irish Bank and US insurance giant Liberty Mutual have agreed to buy the beleaguered insurance company, but are not willing to take on all the losses on its books.

The Government will now have to make up this shortfall and will do so by imposing a levy – expected to be between 1pc and 2pc – on every single non-life insurance customer in the country.

That is sure to spark anger among consumers who are already reeling under a swathe of taxes and levies.

The money from the levy will go into what is known as the Insurance Compensation Fund. The fund is to make sure customers of all insurance companies get paid, even if their own particular insurer gets into financial difficulty.

This fund was used twice in the 1980s when AIB’s insurance arm, ICI, got into trouble and two years earlier, in 1983, when insurer PMPA collapsed – a move that infuriated insurance customers.

The Irish Independent has learnt the true cost of the collapse of Quinn insurance now stands at €620m. Administrators to Quinn Insurance are finalising an application asking the Government to pay for this shortfall.

Sources last night said customers could be paying for the Quinn collapse for several years because the shortfall is so large.

The application from the administrators, Grant Thornton, will be made shortly to Finance Minister Michael Noonan. He is likely grant it despite an expected public outcry.

The High Court and Central Bank will also be informed and asked for approval.

The administrators declined to comment on the figures last night.

Under legislation set up in the 1980s to deal with failing companies, the Finance Minister of the day is allowed impose a levy so the Insurance Compensation Fund has enough resources to deal with whatever insurance claims it is facing.

The minister can impose the levy on the whole insurance industry. The industry then passes it on to the customers. But the minister can only deduct 2pc of the companies’ profits each year. This means it could take a few years to fully deal with the problems left behind by Quinn Insurance.

The Irish Independent has also learnt that Quinn Insurance will shortly publish its 2010 results, showing yet another year of losses.

While the administrators have stabilised the business, it is expected to report losses of €120m. Its balance sheet is in an even worse condition.

The Quinn Insurance company itself will be run now by Liberty, with Anglo taking its place in the background. It is not clear what products and prices Liberty will be offering, but due to its large scale, the US company is expected to be competitive.

Quinn Insurance’s problems began in 2010 after Financial Regulator Matthew Elderfield became concerned about the financial health of the firm.

Mr Elderfield said the firm breached crucial financial ratios and its subsidiaries had entered a series of guarantees for debts held at the Quinn Group, a cements and plastics business.

Since then the regulator has been investigating these issues. However, there has so far been no update on this probe.

This time last year, former Finance Minister Brian Lenihan insisted a second levy would not affect all health insurance customers if Quinn suffered the same fate at ICI.

“There is no call on the need for a levy at this stage,” he said at the time. “When the administrator has conducted a review of the company he will be in a better position to know how to proceed.”

  • Emmet Oliver Deputy Business Editor

:clap: Terrible to think this swell guy was hounded out by that bastard of a financial regulator, the foreigner. :angry:

So is Quinn Insurance, as a standalone business, profitable or not??

Are these losses related to inter-company loans and guarantees that Sean Quinn gave to his other companies or are they acutally operating losses?

Searching questions there Runt. Are you really an IT guy? Or are Brian Tinnion’s posts having an effect on you?

Quinn workers are planning a sit in now until their ‘messiah’ Sean Quinn is returned to the helm. Deluded fucks.

Tinnion and I discussed matters economic over a single malt scotch in his Manhattan apartment. It was a most enlightening tete-à-tete

Too lazy to work. More victims.