The schools

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What good stuff? I’d keep fairly abreast of the goings on with regard to secondary teachers unions. Nearly everything boils down to cash. Introduction of new junior cert, new curriculums*, fitness to teach proceedings… you name it, they blocked it for as long as possible.

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The new JC is a crock of shit. The teachers said so but no one listened.

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Jaysis, the cheek of the Teachers Unions standing up for the health and wellbeing of their members. What’s the world coming to at all? We’ll have women looking for the vote next if we are not careful.

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is any other Union any different? That’s their job, right?

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Some lads will always have excuses, never solutions.

you’re trying exceptionally hard this morning for a bite…

Get back to work you lazy layabouts.

This is effortless tbh.

I wouldnt argue that it has problems. It certainly doesn’t help that every time the department suggest anything like projects, continual assessment or different orals they are battered down by the Asti and TUI. Their wish seems to be for teaching to remain exactly the same as it has been in schools for the last 50 years. (Admittedly the DOE has often tried to get change through without allowing enough training etc…

Jesus, this is getting very dirty now. The government are trying to publicly shame the teachers. A long statement on the Department of Education website to that effect. Josepha Madigan has just drawn a comparison to mother and baby homes in the Dáil and I’m sure the implication won’t go down well with teachers. I don’t know how this is going to be resolved at all at all.

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I suppose it is. Youd get sick of the bluster that it’s all about the kids though.

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What bluster is that? This is about the safety of special Ed teachers returning to work and concerns around that, media have given their opposition endless platforms to vilify them,

Do you consider it a safe environment to return to work in baring in mind my post from earlier regarding typical working conditions in a special school?

Lots more seesaw postings no doubt.

Would the working conditions in a special school be much different to the working conditions in a creche? Many of the issues you identified seem to be comparable, yet the creches remain open.

I see Micheál Martin complaining about criticism of the government and/or FF being overly partisan and overly political. He was at the same craic last week in relation to the mother and baby homes report, accusing the Irish Examiner journalist Aoife Moore of being partisan when she asked would he be apologising on behalf of FF who were in power for the majority of the time these homes were in existence. He seems to think these political issues are non-political and everyone should comply/agree with whatever he’s spouting.

Honestly I’ve never worked in a creche, I’ve never been past the front door of one.
They’re open for only essential workers kids, I’d doubt if staff are required to spend the entire day right inside the personal space of various children, they arrive with their parents as well reducing the risk further,
It’s a good comparison but not neccesarily accurate IMO

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The bluster in the regular dealings of the teaching unions with the DoE over the last 10 years say. In this specific case the teachers are refusing to help Special needs students go back to school. They are citing their own safety issue and have thrown in the fact that it might be difficult because it would mess up some time tabling which is understandable.
1 the NPHET advice is that schools are safe. Believe it or dont. As much as teachers point to it being impossible, it is fair and obvious for people to point at the likes of creche workers who would have much greater safety concerns given their proximity to the kids in their care. This applies to medical staff too and many more. Obviously there are many people who have no choice, shopworkers, delivery types etc…
The second point would be a typical example. Teachers were asked to help provide education for special needs children which would have required a slight change in practice while the country is in the grip of a national emergency. I have no doubt that this could have been managed on a school by school basis, with some teachers covering online classes for the teachers who might physically been in the school. Not a chance.
Where theres a will there’s a way. There is clearly no will in this case.

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Your last paragraph is almost exactly the ‘solution’ that I have offered a few times, workable on individual school basis but i guess that’s not how things are done, I’d happily volunteer to go in, I have no worries about the virus, although my wife would rather I didn’t.
I don’t agree with you about creche workers at the moment having ‘much greater safety concerns’ or any greater safety concerns, in a special school classroom the staff in a room are up close and personal to children almost the entire day, it’s absolutely essential, the children often do not have the awareness to cover sneezes, coughs etc, though obviously this varies.
I’ve said enough, go ahead.

How many teachers are there in the country? Can we jab em all next week