[quote=āThe Runt, post: 772998, member: 181ā]Ah come on. Ye hardly believed him?
Heās been copying and pasting tips from boards for two months.[/quote]
My two horses yesterday were genuine top tips that were no where on the internet. You prick. Neither were my later winners :mad:
[quote=āThe Runt, post: 772998, member: 181ā]Ah come on. Ye hardly believed him?
Heās been copying and pasting tips from boards for two months.[/quote]
Say it aint so ChocolateMice
Art Foley esque from me but:
[QUOTE=aidankkk;84607007]3:15 York.
Society Rock sticks out straight away here as too big a price at 11 on betfair for this race. He was an unlucky 3rd last year on his reappearance, and 2 unproven horses are ahead of him in the betting. They have a fair way to go yet to get to his top class form and although they may improve enough to win here there arenāt any guarantees of that. Society Rock is almost always in with a shout in Group1s so 10/1 about this Group 2 looks great value. Iād be tempted to go for both him and Gordon Lord Byron but he does seem to be better over longer. In my view he is the Favourite here and 10/1 seems nearly double what he should be.
2 Points win 11 Betfair[/QUOTE]
[quote=āChocolateMice, post: 772987, member: 168ā]3.50 York Sound Of Guns 7/2 NAP
Despite a 10lb penalty I still think
Hidden Justice 9/2 will be there or there abouts 5.00 York.
8.05 Newmarket Ice Pie 3/1
Iāll have a few more speculative e.w shots later in the day.[/quote]
[QUOTE=rossom;84638159]3.15 York
Fort Bastion 11/2
Its a little odd that Sir Robert Ogdon has moved this 4 year old from Richard Hannonās to Ed Dunlopās but the fact he hasnāt been gelded and his entry in the Group 1 Queen Anne Stakes lead me to think heās still very well thought of. Its probably going to take a Group Class horse to win this under top weight off a mark of 106 but I think Dunlopās newly acquired Colt is just that. When trained by Hannon, Fort Bastion showed some very useful form as a Juvenile when finishing runner up to the excellent Maybe on his 2nd start and confirmed that promise with a very good 2nd in the Group 3 Acomb Stakes at York in a race that has worked out well. His final start as a 2 year old came in a Group 1 at Longchamp and although last of the 7 (only beaten a little over 3L), I think it says a lot about the regard he was held in. Fort Bastion certainly progressed as a 3 year old where he only had 2 starts but he ran out an impressive victor on both outings. He won a poor Maiden in facile fashion by 12L last May but he was a very impressive winner of a 3 runner Conditions race on his final start later that month. In a race run at a good clip, Richard Hughes made a race winning move as he allowed his mount to quicken up at the 2f pole and Fort Bastion did so in fine style as he lengthened away from his rivals in a short space of time. The runner up Starbound (whose jockey William Buick was probably caught napping) couldnāt bridge the gap as Fort Bastion ran out a convincing 4L winner. That form took a substantial boost with Starbound winning a Group 3 at Longchamp comfortably later that year and I certainly think the best is yet to come. Heāll have to defy a long absence to win this having been last seen a day short of a year but the booking of Ryan Moore certainly seems to suggest heāll be fully wound up and I think heās got a great chance of landing this very competitive Listed Handicap from a good draw in stall 1.
3.50 York
Sound Of Guns 7/2 NAP
I am a massive, massive fan of Ed Walkerās 3 year old filly and if the rain stays away then I think her current price could look ridiculous after the race today (sheāll be withdrawn if the ground doesnāt suit). I have been following Sound Of Guns since her eye catching debut and it didnāt take her long to get off the mark as she won a Maiden at the 2nd time of asking over 6f at Yarmouth in the style of a very good horse as everything that could have went against her did but her class saw her through to score in really impressive fashion. Despite being given a very lenient opening handicap mark of 82, connections didnāt hesitate to step her up into Listed Company where she ran a blinder dropped back to 5f at Newbury last August when finding only the excellent Rosdhu Queen (unbeaten at sprinting trip and winner of the Group 1 Cheveley Park) too good as she went down battling by 3/4L. Despite looking to have every chance at the furlong pole, Sound Of Guns couldnāt get by Willie Haggasās extremely game front running filly but she lost absolutely nothing in defeat that day. Sound Of Guns proved that effort was no fluke when running another superb race in defeat when finishing a 1.5L beaten 3rd in the Group 2 Flying Childers at Doncaster last September on what was her final start. Again over 5f, Sound Of Guns this time took on the boys and I think she was short of room at a crucial stage before running on strongly late on grab 3rd behind a couple of male counterparts. Again, that is really strong form with the winner Sir Prancealot had shown really good form in France when getting beaten less than 2L on two occasions behind Clive Coxās unbeaten Reckless Abandon (including at Group 1 level) whilst the runner up Bungle Inthejungle won a Group 3 on his only subsequent start. Moreover, the reopposing Morawij was a further length back in 6th and is now 7lb worse off at the weights so I canāt see him reversing the form.
Trainer Ed Walker reported that Sound Of Guns had grown a lot over the winter and her reappearance upped to 7f in the Nell Gwyn when finishing much better than her finishing position in 7th suggests. Held up in mid division, Sound Of Guns was very keen throughout the race but she was still travelling very well inside the final 2f in behind the leaders. However, she got a big bump that nearly knocked her over but she was still able to improve her finishing position under a tender ride from Luke Morris. Where she would have finished that day I donāt know but Iād like to think she could have challenged for a place in a race that has thrown up in the 1,000 Guineas winner and 4th in Sky Lantern and Winning Express. Todayās contest sees her dropped back to 5f which shouldnāt cause any problems and her trainer has done so given how keen she was over 7f. Looking at her rivals, the main threats look like improving handicappers looking to step up into Pattern Class and I think Sound Of Guns will have far too much class for them. There are some light showers forecast but Ed Walker has stated that she wonāt run if the ground is unsuitable so there are no fears from me that Iāll get stuck with a bet with unsuitable ground. William Buick is an excellent booking and clearly gets on well with this filly having partnered her to her Maiden success and 3rd in the Flying Childers and I will be very, very disappointed if she doesnāt win this. I wonāt be at all surprised if she routs this average enough looking field and Iāve had a substantial wager on her at a price I think grossly misrepresents her chance of winning this.
5.00 York
Hidden Justice 9/2
Despite being hit with a 10lb rise for his very easy success on his flat debut for John Quinn, I think Hidden Justice could still be quite a bit ahead of the handicapper off a mark of 83 and I think heāll take quite a bit of beating in this big field handicap. Formerly with Amanda Perrett,
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[QUOTE=rossom;84638365]Nearly forgot this one!
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8.05 Newmarket
Ice Pie 3/1 NB[/B]
I think Ice Pie is much, much better than her mark of 73 and I would be very disappointed if she doesnāt win this. She made a very impressive winning debut (one of two debutants in the field - other well beaten) at Lingfield back in December as she made up an awful lot of ground in the final furlong to win going away by 1L and she very much struck me as a horse that was nowhere near the finished article. Moreover, she was comfortably the best horse in the race and the form has worked out very, very well. The 3rd home Gertrude Verse has gone on to win a Maiden very easily and has also finished 2nd to the Oaks bound Banofee in a Listed race at Chester. Furthemore, the 5th and 6th both next time out and for the debutant Ice Pie to beat those rivals with experience says an awful lot about the talent of the filly. Ice Pie made her handicap debut off this mark 12 days ago in a 0-85 handicap (0-75 today) and although beaten a neck in 3rd there is no doubt she was the best horse in the race. Slowly away and held up in touch, she still showed her inexperience as she was unbalanced going around the bends. Shoved along quite a bit off the pace with about 3f to go, she ran around green and once again made about 5L up in the final furlong and she just failed with her late surge. In addition to what she has shown on the track, sheās very nicely bred being a half sister to 4 winners including the peak 107 rated St Moritz which again solidifies my belief sheāll turn out to be much better than her 73 rating. Sheāll definitely improve for the step up to 10f in time but the straight mile at Newmarket should be fine for her today. In my opinion the handicapper is nuts to leave her mark unchanged and in this easier race and with that experience sure to help a lot Iād be very surprised if Ice Pie doesnāt win this well as Richard Kingscote comes from York for this one ride at Newmarket for in form boss Tom Dascombe.[/QUOTE]
This is an all time low for this thread:)
[quote=āThe Runt, post: 773022, member: 181ā][/quote]
You prick, now everyone knows who I am on boards.
Youāve changed ChocolateMice
He has???
This noble thread has been sullied by these developments.
Rocko, can chocolatemice be banned from this thread?
You couldnāt leave it alone Runt! I had the horsey set in the palm of my hand and you ruin it.
However, there were genuine winners in the mix.
But I must admit I was getting high off the adulation.
But does it really matter who brings the party?
Ffs. As long as he is throwing up double digit winners, what the fuck does it matter where he is getting them from.
You And I get it, Fagan. Itās all about the moneyā¦ These horsey types bring some kind of honour in to it and get sad when a horse dies.
I think it is disingenous to the lad that has put in the hours studying the form. If he said, there is an excellent tipster over on boards called Rossom and he has put up the followingā¦, then he would still receive the plaudits for bringing this information to the attention of the board.
What are you on about? He is only an above average tipster.
You just donāt get it.
By all means throw up the tips, but milking the adulation is a shameful act.
Any fancies for later on today ChocolateMice?
[quote=ācarryharry, post: 773058, member: 1517ā]By all means throw up the tips, but milking the adulation is a shameful act.
Any fancies for later on today ChocolateMice?[/quote]
Iāll posting my top tips at lunch time as promised. We will show the Runt who is who then.
Nah, that lad will make serious money from punting as long as he does not deviate from his edge. I have read many of his previews since he starting posting on boards, and he is consistently excellent. I would love to know what his points profit over the year is, I would say its phenomenal.