48% of black people have very little or no confidence that police will treat them the same as they would white people.
Are they wrong?
Only 12% of white people have little or no confidence that police will treat black people equally to whites.
What explains the discrepancy?
So he has no examples. A recurring theme on here.
Thatâs not reflected in their voting patterns. You have to be very careful of prioritising a convenient opinion poll over what people actually vote for, polls can be made to say anything.
Whatâs the link between how much policing people want and who they vote for?
See youâre getting very defensive. You should probably ask yourself why that is.
I have no idea why youâd write the following sentence. You seem to believe black people as a whole are somehow in an elevated position of power in America.
What??
Ok, that young girl that was tragically shot yesterday in Ohio. Do you think it was murder?
See thatâs the thing with @Tierneevin1979. He seems to have a penchant for cherry picking polls or âstudiesâ which accord with his opinions, and which disregard a greater number of polls or studies which donât accord with his opinions.
Elaborate please
I see what youâre doing there. Youâre picking a recent incident on which youâve clearly already taken a position that it was not murder, in order to imply there isnât a problem with police murdering black people.
Also, can I just say, AFAIK the cop that shot that teenaged girl hasnât been charged with anything yet - please correct me if Iâm wrong. It is entirely correct that the incident be thoroughly investigated and also entirely predictable that people who campaign against police brutality and perhaps may even have experienced police brutality would have a kneejerk reaction before they look at the incident more thoroughly.
Youâve given a few tweets to justify this claim. Steady on. You give a strong impression that you have a kneejerk need for conflict yourself. Even your obsession with the Chauvin trial was extremely odd and you didnât seem embarrassed of the idea that you were enjoying that trial. Calm down.
Beyond that, respectfully, I will not be engaging with you on this further on this matter because I remember how you got during the BLM protests.
The cop had good reactions BTW.
What I was trying to do was expose your bias, based on what Iâve seen it was justified. Whatâs your opinion?
Chauvin was convicted of murder. However as far as I know there was no insinuation at the trial that racism was a factor, open to correction there, you make a very definitive statement that thereâs a problem with police murdering black people. Have you any examples of this? Almost all studies are biased but have you any which establishes this as a fact
OK, why, following the murder of George Floyd, why did @Tierneevin1979 run with the main narrative that George Floyd was a scumbag?
As opposed to a main narrative that this was a brutal murder which needed to be punished in the strongest possible terms?
Thatâs my recollection of the discussion and Iâm pretty sure itâs accurate.
I would say the discrepancy is due to the experience people have with police, and that more black people have had bad experiences with cops. Note the Latino and White numbers are not that different, even though the narrative is that cops are waging war on all people of color, frequently expressed as black and brown.
But I agree with the premise that black people are frequently treated differently to other races by cops, and it should be addressed by the cities that have this problem and specifically by the politicians that the cops report to. I would say a good first step would be weeding out cops that have a poor discipline record (like Derek Chauvin).
Why are the right wing weirdos so desperate to prove other cases arenât murder on the Derek Chauvin thread? It was @Tierneevin1979 who made an earnest request on the opening post that the topic wouldnât descend into allegations of racism against the poor unfortunate police officer.
But thereâs a horrible need for some people now to deflect by introducing other events just so they can share their nuanced analysis of American society as a whole and the racism they are so dedicated to disproving.
I am biased. I am biased against US police because they have a problem with murdering black people. And I am biased against the right wing US media which keeps making excuses for them.
Iâm very biased that regard.
Your recollection is incorrect.
And this belief is based on what exactly?
It might have been @labane1917, to be fair.
Black people continually being murdered by US police.
Why would posters spend so much time trying to disprove racism? Why indeed.
