Things I learned today (Part 1)

Things
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Maybe he just wasn’t aware of O’Brien’s past.

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I said he is a gangster, that’s not in question.

He still gave money to Irish organisations. It’s better than not doing it at all is my point. These people like O Neill, keane , sexton etc raise money, profile etc etc of the sports. Its good all round.

Of course it doesn’t excuse any of the rest of his carry on. However its just Irish begrudgery to be moaning about this contribution.

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[QUOTE=“Kinvara’s Passion, post: 1018386, member: 686”]never ever forget it

As for those sheepstealers, curlew cunts and the whipping boys… fuck them, may they’ll wallow in self pity for next 1000 years.[/QUOTE]

That’s what comes from having non-hurling counties voting on hurling matters. The series of fucking about with the national leagues over the last few years is a by-product of this also.

If I correctly recall, Tipperary, to their credit, supported Galway in the Keady appeal.

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U2’s holding company isn’t tax resident in Ireland - what’s the tax residency of the band members themselves though, are they non-resident?

I don’t agree with O’Brien’s personal tax situation as he maintains the benefit of Irish citizenship without contributing anything to Irish society (aside from his sponsorship of certain sportsmen). I’d be more in favor of the US model where all citizens are taxed regardless of their country of residence. Wouldn’t effect the vast majority of people as they would be paying taxes in their country of residence and benefit from double tax treaties and would force the likes of O’Brien to contribute something or renounce citizenship.

I still have massive respect for him as a businessman and for making shit of those Second Captains lads though.

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[QUOTE=“briantinnion, post: 1018658, member: 6”]U2’s holding company isn’t tax resident in Ireland - what’s the tax residency of the band members themselves though, are they non-resident?

I don’t agree with O’Brien’s personal tax situation as he maintains the benefit of Irish citizenship without contributing anything to Irish society (aside from his sponsorship of certain sportsmen). I’d be more in favor of the US model where all citizens are taxed regardless of their country of residence. Wouldn’t effect the vast majority of people as then would be paying taxes in their country of residence and benefit from double tax treaties and would force the likes of O’Brien to contribute something or renounce citizenship.

I still have massive respect for him as a businessman and for making shit of those Second Captains lads though.[/QUOTE]

I’d have no issues with O’Brien from a tax perspective. There are a myriad of other things he has done which are much more worrying.

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[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1018649, member: 273”]I said he is a gangster, that’s not in question.

He still gave money to Irish organisations. It’s better than not doing it at all is my point. These people like O Neill, keane , sexton etc raise money, profile etc etc of the sports. Its good all round.

Of course it doesn’t excuse any of the rest of his carry on. However its just Irish begrudgery to be moaning about this contribution.[/QUOTE]

I fucking hate that phrase ‘Irish begrudgery’.

I would love if people who use it provide instances where such carry on is exclusive to Ireland.

It is not begrudgery to be annoyed at some billionaire getting around Irish tax law to avoid paying millions in tax. Especially when someone is try to big him up on the basis of him giving a million quid to Trapattoni.

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[QUOTE=“farmerinthecity, post: 1018675, member: 24”]I fucking hate that phrase ‘Irish begrudgery’.

I would love if people who use it provide instances where such carry on is exclusive to Ireland.

It is not begrudgery to be annoyed at some billionaire getting around Irish tax law to avoid paying millions in tax. Especially when someone is try to big him up on the basis of him giving a million quid to Trapattoni.[/QUOTE]

Don’t forget that cunt PJ or whatever his name is as well.

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Refreshing to hear a Limerick man say that. I suggested that before to the assailant of @Bartosz Bereszynskiego and I was nearly another victim.

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[QUOTE=“farmerinthecity, post: 1018675, member: 24”]I fucking hate that phrase ‘Irish begrudgery’.

I would love if people who use it provide instances where such carry on is exclusive to Ireland.

It is not begrudgery to be annoyed at some billionaire getting around Irish tax law to avoid paying millions in tax. Especially when someone is try to big him up on the basis of him giving a million quid to Trapattoni.[/QUOTE]
You must get accused of it a lot so farmer. It’s real and we’re top notch at it.
Who is bigging him up for trap?

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@Rintintin knows the score.

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[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1018649, member: 273”]I said he is a gangster, that’s not in question.

He still gave money to Irish organisations. It’s better than not doing it at all is my point. These people like O Neill, keane , sexton etc raise money, profile etc etc of the sports. Its good all round.

Of course it doesn’t excuse any of the rest of his carry on. However its just Irish begrudgery to be moaning about this contribution.[/QUOTE]
He gives money to the more mercenary of the Irish sporting fraternity, who’s loyalty is easily counterbalanced by a relatively measly chequebook. Is it just me who sees this lot as complete cunts. “I love my province and country. I hate leaving. All my loyalty is at home. My heart is forever Leinster. But the Parisians are offering me more money so fuck it.” Ashley cole at al are at least honest about it.
I have no problem with going for the bigger pay check, I’d recommend anyone do it, rugby players, who are only ever a bad hit away from retirement in particular, but spare us the badge kissing.
Cunts.
Mind you, if I were bono or o brien, I’d not be paying tax in Ireland so the political teaching class can swell their multiple pensions any further either. I’d take the JP route, and invest directly locally.

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[QUOTE=“flattythehurdler, post: 1019010, member: 1170”]He gives money to the more mercenary of the Irish sporting fraternity, who’s loyalty is easily counterbalanced by a relatively measly chequebook. Is it just me who sees this lot as complete cunts. “I love my province and country. I hate leaving. All my loyalty is at home. My heart is forever Leinster. But the Parisians are offering me more money so fuck it.” Ashley cole at al are at least honest about it.
I have no problem with going for the bigger pay check, I’d recommend anyone do it, rugby players, who are only ever a bad hit away from retirement in particular, but spare us the badge kissing.
Cunts.
Mind you, if I were bono or o brien, I’d not be paying tax in Ireland so the political teaching class can swell their multiple pensions any further either. I’d take the JP route, and invest directly locally.[/QUOTE]

Sexton came back on less money than he was being offered in France. Not sure who are the others you’re talking about - who else has gone?

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Less money from Leinster, but with the O’Brien top up he won’t be too far off what he was on in Paris plus a guaranteed media job when he finishes up.

What the story with the tax breaks for retiring sports people? Is it a certain % of your career you have to be based in Ireland for?

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[QUOTE=“TreatyStones, post: 1019057, member: 1786”]Less money from Leinster, but with the O’Brien top up he won’t be too far off what he was on in Paris plus a guaranteed media job when he finishes up.

What the story with the tax breaks for retiring sports people? Is it a certain % of your career you have to be based in Ireland for?[/QUOTE]

you have to have spent the 10 years before you retired based in Ireland so Sexton wouldn’t eligable. Or at least that was the case a few years ago.

Hence why very few of the centrally contracted players ever left for France or England.

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[QUOTE=“chewy louie, post: 1019073, member: 1137”]you have to have spent the 10 years before you retired based in Ireland so Sexton wouldn’t eligable. Or at least that was the case a few years ago.

Hence why very few of the centrally contracted players ever left for France or England.[/QUOTE]

I think they changed it recently. You can get tax relief on your salary earned here and it doesn’t matter if you move abroad. I’m open to correction though.

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There’s some sort of relief available as Peter Stringer would have availed of it in recent years.

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You are correct in your interpretation. You are now the preeminent tax advisor on this board.

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Maybe, the old deal was pretty sweet, i think they could claim up to 40% back of the income tax they had paid over the 10 best earning years of their career. If a lad was on an average of 200k in that time it would be a nice wedge when calling it a day

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I’m not sure I’ll be able to combine this with my position as Junior Vice President for the TFK Foreign Affairs Committee and senior Christy Ring analyst.

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[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1018858, member: 273”]You must get accused of it a lot so farmer. It’s real and we’re top notch at it.
Who is bigging him up for trap?[/QUOTE]

You said that he gave something back.