Things I learn't today (Part 2)

During the time in the 2000s when the International Criminal Court in the Hague were looking for Radovan Karadzic, Karadzic adopted a fake identity and became a practitioner of woo woo especially around making men more virile, which involved basically trying to wank off decrepit old men.

In the year 2000, David Petraeus was made chief head hunter for Karadzic. His plan was to dress up a man in a gorilla suit, hide him on the side of a mountain road, and then when Karadzic’s car would pass, the ā€œgorillaā€ would jump out and startle the driver, giving US special forces time to swoop in and capture Karadzic.

The plan failed.


The Rebirth as ā€œDragan DabiÄ‡ā€

Evans explains that after years of living in a state of semi-hiding, Karadžić relocated to Belgrade around 2005 and stole the identity of a real man named Dragan Dabić. To pull it off, he underwent a total physical transformation: [1, 2, 3]

  • The Look: He grew out a massive, flowing white beard and tied his long hair into a distinctive topknot. He wore thick glasses and donned billowing, bohemian clothing. [1, 2]
  • The Vibe: He abandoned the uniform of a militaristic warlord to adopt the persona of an eccentric, peaceful, and soft-spoken spiritual guru. [1, 2]

The Absurdity of the ā€œQuackā€ Career

What Evans and Loftus find most incredible—and breakdown with signature dark humor—is that Karadžić did not lay low. He lived completely in the open, building a prominent public brand as a practitioner of ā€œquantum medicine,ā€ acupuncture, and bioenergy healing. [1]

  • The Grift: He became an MLM supplement salesman and a contributor to the Serbian magazine Healthy Life, where he regularly published essays on wellness. [1, 2]
  • The ā€œSperm Magicā€: A particular highlight of the episode is Evans mocking Dabić’s specialty: a bizarre, hands-on alternative fertility treatment. Karadžić marketed himself as a guru who could miraculously improve men’s sperm counts through ā€œball-cuppingā€ and localized energy manipulation. [1, 2]
  • Hiding in Plain Sight: Evans details how Karadžić would casually drink at a local Belgrade bar called The Madhouse. The bar literally had a portrait of Karadžić (the warlord) hanging on the wall. He would sit right beneath his own face, playing stringed instruments and singing folk songs for patrons who had no idea they were looking at the fugitive. [1]
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Leeds United and Stoke City never once played each other in the premier league

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Not that remarkable really unless you consider that football only started in 1992/1993. They met plenty of times in the old first division.

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Only a small number of people who live in UK ever get a death notice or obitury (something like 20%). Practically everyone in Ireland gets one I imagine.

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Never heard of this until watching a Pogues performance from it 5 minutes ago. Decent line up.

Were you in attendance @Fagan_ODowd ?

I was. I had a great day at it. Meself and the flatmate, Mango went to it. The two of us bought two boxes of wine, took the cardboard off and stuck the pouches under our jumpers to evade security. It worked. We got as drunk as monkeys. We had the good sense to leave just before U2, who were the final act, came on and we got a bus into town and had a couple of lovely pints in the Flowing Tide to finish the day on a high.

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Popular thing to say now in 2026 but at that time they were one of the most exciting bands in the world,

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Never liked them to be honest. Right from the get go. Sanctimonious cunts. Well Bono anyway. In 1986, Bono was in the middle of his ā€œIsn’t Garret Fitzgerald greatā€ phase. That was a red rag to me.

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When you know, you know :clap::clap::clap:

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What was your political leanings through the 80s?

I was never a big fan, think achtung baby is a very good album, but I’ve seen them live a few times and they did great shows

Pride, Bad and Sunday Bloody Sunday would have been pretty epic in front of an Irish crowd in 86

I’d say a version where they shoehorned in two other songs would have been watery enough there? Probably a 25-30 minute set at most and nearly half of it covers

I’m sure it would have been pretty epic if you were into bombastic stadium rock posturing. I wasn’t then and I’m not now. Plenty are though and good luck to them.

If that were true you wouldn’t have been at Self Aid at all.

There is the line up. Not too many bombastic stadium rock type bands there.

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Bagatelle

Big Self

Blue in Heaven

The Boomtown Rats

Paul Brady

Cactus World News

Chris de Burgh

The Chieftains

Clannad

De Dannan (De Danann)

Elvis Costello & The Attractions

The Fountainhead

Rory Gallagher

In Tua Nua

Les Enfants

Christy Moore (with Paul Doran)

Van Morrison

Moving Hearts

The Pogues

Chris Rea

Scullion

Brush Shiels

Stockton’s Wing

Thin Lizzy (featuring guest appearances like Bob Geldof on vocals)

Those Nervous Animals

U2 (closing the event)

The Dubliners [1, 2, 3, 4]

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It was in a stadium and was conceived of very much as an ā€œeventā€ stadium rock concert along the lines of Live Aid.

The word ā€œbombasticā€ is mostly in the eye of the beholder. I’d venture that most prolific practitioners of bombasticism (is that a word) in our world are basically never referred to as such.

The people who most like to use the word ā€œsanctimoniousā€ are generally the most prolific practitioners of sanctimoniosity (is that a word?).

Language is a weapon.

He might have been on the hunt for an :owl:bit of :pouting_cat:

Frankly, that’s a silly thing to say. But hey, I don’t doubt you’re entitlement to say it.

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The language was intended as a weapon.

Yeah, Mango and meself were happy enough to have seen peak ā€œLady in Redā€ Chris de Burgh live and in the flesh and left shortly after.

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Were U2 the Oasis of their day? Stadium fillers of largely mindless zombies out for a bit of karaoke?

Did Chris play Don’t pay the Ferryman?