Brady’s what in the play-offs?
Brady has nearly every play-off record.
The defense did not concede a huge amount of points. I know it’s tough for you to join the dots.
Brady has an inferior QBR to Rodgers in the playoffs.
That is despite having the greatest defensive strategiest and overall coach of all time in his corner who routinely take the pressure off.
Let that settle for you.
And neither can you … what kind of a supporting cast did Brady have ? You refuse to acknowledge that of all the QBs in the league, he consistently plays with far inferior talent around him bar the year he had Moss - and look what he did. Those loses were to elite Ds … The Ravens and Bronco Ds were immense and Superbowl winning -
QBR 
It’s like watching Clitus from Oklahoma and Bruce from Alice Springs comparing Shefflin and Canning 
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Consistently?
Wes Welker went off to the Broncos and was still good until injury. That’s after nice guy Tom’s wife got catty about Wes on the way out.
Gronk is the greatest receiving right end of all time.
So he had a slot and Gronk - who was injured half the time … gee whizz …
And mick the muldoon sticking his unwanted roaster head in just to let the world know he’s alive.
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Tony Gonzalez was.
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Agreed, followed by Shannon Sharpe
Even the new breed of TE Kelce, Kittle and Ertz look like they will all surpass Gronk before they finish their careers.
Only for Injuries he’d clearly be the greatest … Sharpe said it himself… But he has missed too much … He’s far better than the lot of em tho.
Mahomes will make Kelce an all time great
Not the most important one though, yards per completion in a playoff game.
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Nah. Gronk is far more profilic TD/games so far. He makes more yards per play.
I will give you that Gonzalez will play longer and didn’t get the injuries but not on the level of Gronk imo.
We all bow down to the temple of Tebow.
What grounds would he have to bitch about belichick!! He made him who he is.
Not exactly objective analysis here bro. Brady isn’t muck, he’s tall, he’s relatively cool under pressure, he executes the short throws that are drawn up for him well. But if he had to create some magic, thread a needle 30 yards away, theres a lot youd have ahead of him. Especially peyton. He’s had just as many negative big game performances and positive ones.
If Rodgers had half of bradys career he’d be happy instead his past it, will never win a Superbowl again. Can’t even mention both in the same sentence will you stop now this is embarrassing to watch.
Brady has done it when he’s had the talent around him. He finds a way. There’s more to QB than a laser arm. Manning and Rodgers had more talent but Brady has a resolve inside that neither possess. It’s what makes him a winner and it’s something you can’t calculate with stats.
There’s no one denying Bill’s effect - his coaching — but a large part of him being able to take lesser players and form a Superbowl challenging team is down to Brady. Tim threw out Welker and Gronk as his weapons in recent years … Gronk has been out as much as he’s been in and Welker was a slot. You can say Atlanta shit the bed but Brady won that with who? Lost Cook early - Edleman and Hogan?
Most other QBs have teams built around them, but Brady has key players taken away from him every year - The Patriots way they call it, but it doesnt work with any other QB, not to the extent it has anyway - and that’s what I mean by Brady carrying it – What ever is thrown his way he deals with it and excels – Regular season - over 70,000 passing, over 500 TDs and 170 interceptions — Manning, Brees, Farve (the 500 club) all have far more picks … And Brady has played out doors all his career – Manning has always been stacked with talent, as have all the other top QBs – Tom has had to throw to over 70 different recipients, most of them wouldn’t make the practice squads with other organizations.
His big losses have all been to top Ds (except last year) – Tim pointing this out like it’s a bad thing to lose to elite defences like the Ravens and Broncos – Even the Giants — those losses only extenuate my point – They were able to dominate a very average O. The man can’t throw and catch the thing…
The facts remain, he;s never had a losing season – he has done this with much lesser talent around him than others, he holds all kinds of records, 5 rings etc. etc …. And he has done this through hard work every day … Others might be more talented, but none of them have had the drive, desire and sheer will to succeed in the same way – that’s what makes him great. That’s what allows Bill to get away with his ‘Patriot’s way’ of moving on players instead of paying them.
None of it works without Tom.
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