Tom Brady - On Tablet watch

You’re a fucking idiot. A boring, repetitive one at that …I’m convinced you are aspergers

No to mention the Mugging of the receivers… how many rule changes have ocurred due to the patriots?

Maybe they should be applauded for spotting lacunae within the rules but you know something isn’t right when it is changed with immediate effect in the off season.

What on Earth are you on about? Do you even know what Aspergers is?

You seem unable to have a normal debate without flinging shit around the place. There are, and will always be, question marks over some of the Patriots wins under Belichick. No one can deny this.

Have a read of this article when you get a few minutes. http://deadspin.com/the-patriots-are-sketchy-and-deserve-scrutiny-1744511593?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

And every other franchise is innocent? Every other team spied on other teams, was it not the done thing? The Patriots got the full blunt of it for doing what every other team did…but it’s done and no point going over it… As for deflate gate… Nothing was proven, but again, Pats get walloped… Whatever, they went and smashed the Seahawks to the disgust of the NFL.

Brady is clutch and that’s what makes him the greatest. Manning is a pussy. Rodgers is mentally weak.

Their first one was against the Rams where there was allegations of shit. Also you have the tuck rule then if you want. The Panthers and Eagles had nothing (that I know of) that had any shit thrown at them. Teh deflating shit had no impact in the last superbowl, and in general if it was fully proven to have happened, had fuck all influence of anything in any game.

you do know what spygate was dont you? And you do know that prior to that incident against the Jets it was legal to do what they were doing, and was commonplace across the league. The patriots still doing it was utter stupidity, especially against a team being coached by a former coach.

It’s idiots like @ChocolateMice and similar Patriots fans that will end up taking from Brady’s legacy as they continue failing to appreciate him for what he is.

What are you spouting about? You’re fucking clueless… All you have is spygate and a few bullshit articles to throw out. Was every other team not also spying???

Yup dude.

I’m very familiar with it.

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Level 9 rattled.

You’ll fit in well in Cork where they love denying the sporting shortcomings.

:rollseyes:

there absolutely will be question marks, but there are over pretty much every team that has ever won. The steelers and their steroids. The raiders and their hits. In more recent times, the colts and pumping noise into the stadium. The saints and bounty gate. Denver and breaking the cap rules. Seahawks and their systematic PED use. It’s just what happens. Personally, I think most teams are at something in some shape or form. But it’s only the winners that will get more scrutiny and therefore the Pats winning and being successful lately means they will be in the spotlight more. So be it. No one gives a shit if losers are doing shit and not being successful. Belicheck pushes every rule to bending point, and has been shown to go past that point. What amused me last year was all the bitching that Harbaugh did after he mugged him off, moaned and whined for weeks, and who was the first team to go into the similar formation this season, and use it a few times? Yup. The Ravens.

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Giants seem absent from your list there sport.

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Simple fact is New England haven’t won a Superbowl, perhaps with the exception of their first without there being some controversy surrounding it.

Except of course for the Tuck Rule game in the AFC Divisional round that year.

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Yes I concur but the original point I was making was that there are no question marks over Manning’s Colts or Rodgers’ Packers in the way that there are over Brady’s Patriots.

They’ve won 1 Tom has won four would be the major question mArk over them.

that may be. Colts were up on the crowd noises though the year they won. But it’s a relatively minor matter too. The Falcons got done for it this year and no one really gave a shit. I’m sure if Manning or the Colts had won more, more shit would get thrown at them. Rodgers too openly admitted he over inflates footballs, but granted there was no furore or investigation over that. Neither are big issues, and neither are reasons to put question marks over them, only just pointing out sometimes mountains can be made of molehills if people really wanted.

It doesnt help the Patriots that Belicheck is a dour cunt that generally hates the media and treats them with contempt. It was why I was surprised at so many journalists/media types throwing Brady under the bus this year considering he is the stereotypical QB hero type and treats most very well. And why he has changed his media duties in a huge way this year. People dont like the Pats for a multitude of reasons, Belicheck being one of the main ones, including his bending/breaking of rules, the self congratulatory Patriots way being another, and just being a successful team another again. Again, so be it. I’ll live with that. It doesnt change Bradys standing as one of the greatest ever.

again, what were the question marks over the Panthers and Eagles superbowl wins?

And you obviously dont listen to moaner supreme Marshall Faulk and the taping of the Rams walk through. It was the first one that had question marks, not the other 2.

If multiple Superbowl victories are the yardstick, would you consider Jim Plunkett and Eli Manning as being among the all-time greats? Not at all.

I’ve been following NFL for over 30 years and, yes, despite my utter dislike of New England as a franchise, Brady has to be considered as being up there with the best of them, as do Manning and Rodgers.

They’re obviously different types of players. Rodgers is closest to Brady in terms of game-intelligence and is far more mobile. Manning arguably had better teams but got less out of them and should really have jacked it in last year. I feel it’s going to end badly for him.

Over those 30 years, the best I’ve seen, in no particular order are:

Joe Montana
Tom Brady
John Elway
Dan Fouts
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rodgers
Dan Marino

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Their fans being another one.

What you’re saying about Rodgers is incorrect. He over inflated the balls and left it up to the officials to correct them. He never arranged to the balls to be tampered with AFTER they had been checked by the officials.

No Favre?