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any of you lads enter this. have done few entries for the past few years. was in 18th place overall prior to beginning of cheltenham last year. alas i ended up in the 100s.

great racing in prospect this weekend. see that tidal bay has being given trhe green light to take on masterminded in tingle creek.

this is going to be very interesting. while masterminded is undoubtably a very good horse i dont think he deserves his rating as the best horse in training. an analogy i would draw would be to hawk wings performance in lockinge a few years ago. very visably impressive on the eye but never equaled thereafter.

i left masterminded out of my lists in favour of tidal bay as my 2m chaser so hoping im justified on saturday.

Old Pumpkin Head Nicholls deserves no luck after his lack of loyalty to Sam Thomas…following in a long tradition of shafting his jockeys Timmy Murphy, Liam Heard, Colman Sweeney…

Kauto wouldn’t have fallen under Ruby FACT

Never entered one of those, I know little about racing. Actually thinking about that, I’d probably do well.

[quote=“Sledgehammer”]Kauto wouldn’t have fallen under Ruby FACT

Never entered one of those, I know little about racing. Actually thinking about that, I’d probably do well.[/quote]

Think I remember some horse throwing Ruby off a few years back, Ruby got back on and got up to almost win the race. Was that Kauto Star?

Thomas did nothing wrong on Kauto Star. FACT.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ImY25QVhMc[/ame]

i remember him having a right go at ruby after the ride he gave azertioup a few years ago, maybe tingle that moscow won.

in fairness poor sam is very poor. has an incredible amount of unseated rider for a ‘top jockey’.

be very surprised if he is still there next season, with a move back to v. williams on the cards.

what you think of young townend?? that lad has any amount of potential.

i would agree. he asked him for one, which he got. just the fall of a tried horse.

certainly was. kauto out injured for rest of year afterwards, whether ruby getting back up contributed to theinjury is debatable. im sure nichols told him not to do it again

Yes, he fell with Ruby at Exeter and the horse turned out to be injured, Ruby’s John Wayne effort ensured the horse had to be roughed off for eleven months after forcing an injured horse complete the course.

ya watched that race. The best makes mistakes I guess. Would be interested to hear SS** what you think of Noel Meade as a trainer. Perennial Cheltenham bottler?

Thomas presented the horse perfectly at the fence but the horse himself just knuckled over, nothing he could do about that. With all the know it alls in the Racing Post giving him stick about it, he has lost his confidence. This, together with greedy Nicholls hammering the nails in, has shattered this young man’s confidence.

You wouldnt see Josh Gifford do this, how many times did Bob Champion fcuk up when he came back from cancer, typically a few greedy owners kicked up over it and Gifford told them to take their horses away if they didn’t want Champion to ride their horses. Fat Nicholls has no class.

i am a big fan of noel meade. his horses are always trying and know their job. a true friend to the punter.

having said that its amazing the number of soft/bridle horses that he produces. whether its the way they are trained or the type of horses he purchases is debatable.

one of the reasons he does so poorly at chelt considering the ammo he has is that his horses peaked around xmas i.e. too early. this can be contrasted with the approach of willie mullins and edward o’grady sho are past master at getting their horses to peak for spring festivals of cheltenham, aintree and punchestown.

Yeah it’s very hard to know, no question he’s a top trainer but it must be a source of regret that he hasn’t transferred it to Mecca. Sausilito Bay is all I can recall off the top of my head, very unlucky with Hill Society and Tiennamen Square (famously smashed the windscreen of his car with his binoculars with frustration after that one).

It is amazing how many of his horses are soft bridle types, it surely must be something to do with the way they’re trained. That Mick The Man was a real frustrating type last year for him, he’s gone to Colm Murphy now but hasn’t had a change of luck since.

Noel probably turns his horses out better than any trainer in Ireland. He horses nearly always look very, very well, in contrast to some trainers who seem intent on starving their charges.

how could you leave out the only horse to lower the colours of the mighty denman?? nicanor:)

[quote=“SHANNONSIDER**”]Yeah it’s very hard to know, no question he’s a top trainer but it must be a source of regret that he hasn’t transferred it to Mecca. Sausilito Bay is all I can recall off the top of my head, very unlucky with Hill Society and Tiennamen Square (famously smashed the windscreen of his car with his binoculars with frustration after that one).

It is amazing how many of his horses are soft bridle types, it surely must be something to do with the way they’re trained. That Mick The Man was a real frustrating type last year for him, he’s gone to Colm Murphy now but hasn’t had a change of luck since.

Noel probably turns his horses out better than any trainer in Ireland. He horses nearly always look very, very well, in contrast to some trainers who seem intent on starving their charges.[/quote]

mark my words. mick the man will win a very big handicap this year once he gets good ground and a furious pace. county hurdle maybe.

That’s right Nicanor, forgot him. Is that all he’s had?

yeah just sausalito bay and nicanor. corskeagh royle, another bridle merchant was second to cousin vinny last year in bumper.

will be interested to see how pandorama goes this year. some good judges have compared him to an early carvill’s hill.

Had him laid that day. A very painful experience.

Had seen Nicanor in the flesh twice before then at Navan and Leopardstown. He hit the majority of hurdles in both races. Paul Carberry wasnt on him either that day in Chelt afaik.

Just think if Dessie Hughes had the resources Meade has he could threaten Nicholls.

What ever happened to that horse O’ Muircheartaigh. Watched him win his bumper in Cork by a field and then won a novice hurdle race in Navan (same day as Nicanor, Moscow Flyer was beaten the same day by Central House). Was well beaten at Cheltenham and I haven’t heard of him since.

[quote=“KIB man”]Had him laid that day. A very painful experience.

Had seen Nicanor in the flesh twice before then at Navan and Leopardstown. He hit the majority of hurdles in both races. Paul Carberry wasnt on him either that day in Chelt afaik.

Just think if Dessie Hughes had the resources Meade has he could threaten Nicholls.

What ever happened to that horse O’ Muircheartaigh. Watched him win his bumper in Cork by a field and then won a novice hurdle race in Navan (same day as Nicanor, Moscow Flyer was beaten the same day by Central House). Was well beaten at Cheltenham and I haven’t heard of him since.[/quote]

He won a decent handicap chase last christmas, but hasn’t really done much else (and has been in plenty of races). Went in the Kerry National this year but didn’t make it around.

[quote=“KIB man”]Had him laid that day. A very painful experience.

Had seen Nicanor in the flesh twice before then at Navan and Leopardstown. He hit the majority of hurdles in both races. Paul Carberry wasnt on him either that day in Chelt afaik.

Just think if Dessie Hughes had the resources Meade has he could threaten Nicholls.

What ever happened to that horse O’ Muircheartaigh. Watched him win his bumper in Cork by a field and then won a novice hurdle race in Navan (same day as Nicanor, Moscow Flyer was beaten the same day by Central House). Was well beaten at Cheltenham and I haven’t heard of him since.[/quote]

nicanor was beating by bobs hall (trained by wachman at time) over inadequate 2 miles prior to cheltenam. not giving the best of rides by slippers that day, think it was navan?. it is still one of my biggest regrets that i did’nt back him that day. was after doing my nut and it was damage limitation. was hard to oppose denman aswell but really thought that nicanor was an ew good thing. damn:rolleyes:

o’muircheataig is owned by o’grady’s mum. won his bumper well and went off crazy price for royal bond and was stuffed. a decent enough handicap chaser these days.