Turkey v Ireland 23rd of March

Lovely turn of phrase is that an English saying?

:joy::joy::joy:

Its not the first time this week, I’m shocked at him.

The grand slam has knocked the stuffing out if him

He’s right here, but he’s a bigger fool tor pursuing it given the protagonists.

@the_man_himself made a fool out of himself imagining things that were said when the evidence was black and white in front of him, @Cicero_Dandi tickled his belly for a while but it was a very very odd situation apparently caused by a lack of ā€œquotation marksā€

The timeline is remarkably similar.

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It’s a West British thing

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Ah kev. You’ve just turned forty I believe. So between the ages of 2 and 12 you were an avid follower and superb analyst of English football and went to many of the games? Wow. Fair play.

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Yes

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Frank Stapleton was a fine player, a regular starter for two of the best teams in England, football was a different game, would either have thrived in the others era?

I’d suggest both would be in the 2nd tier or lower top tier at best

I’m going to skip the Robbie Keane ā€œdebateā€ because anyone with any interest in or understanding of football knows how good Keane was for us.

But I wouldn’t have thought Christie could be a centre back at all. He’s not strong in the air and doesn’t seem like a brilliant defender. Out of any of our full backs Ward is probably most suitable to playing in a back 3 but he’s not fast and doesn’t offer anything positive there really.

I’d like to see us try it sometimes though.

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Nobody denied Keane was very good, no need for the superior attitude, what’s your specific expertise in football that entitles you to that sniffy attitude?
That ā€˜debate’ was sparked by my scoffing at the notion relayed by a so called expert that we could never again hope for a better centre forward than Robbie, I would suggest that if we put out an all time 11 he would probably be there but would be the least complete footballer on the pitch, we just haven’t had many great centre forwards

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Ah not this Robbie Keane was overrated craic, 68 goals in 146 games for fucking Ireland! Be a long long time before any player touches that record and certainly not in any of our lifetimes.

Robbie thrived in the ultra professional era … the rest thrived in an era where smoking and drinking were widely accepted as part of soccer culture…You’re earlier argument about the eras is a bit ridiculous – But if you were able to put Robbie in his primes into a time machine and go back to the 60s/70s/80s, he’d fucking destroy the part time drinkers and smokers.

Robbie was much more than just a poacher. He was more of a creator for Spurs but we played such shite football for most of his time with Ireland that he didn’t show it much for us

I didn’t bring up the era thing, just nodded at it cause somebody else did, very hard to judge players outside of their own but a world class player will thrive in any, Robbie wouldn’t have had the same protection and access to sport science etc, pointless.

The thing about Robbie was, he was a street footballer, and relied on his instincts. He’d have thrived in any era. He’s not a product of the modern era of coaching/s&c. He may have benefited from it, but then so did Glen Whelan, didn’t make him Irelands greatest ever player.

Lookit, we’ve been through it, he was a fine player, a decent EPL striker when that was a much bigger deal than in previous eras,
But he was never a world class player, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s better centre forwards coming through right now, it’s the only point I made