Uk Affairs - Sterling is taking a Pounding

Rubbish. It truly is risible still to be talking about vitamin D (and Ivermectin) nearly four years later.

Besides, you are a farmer in rural Ireland. What is relatively easy for you to achieve remains a completely different matter for someone living in Belfast, Dublin or London – or in any substantial urban environment. The narcissism involved in your take is equally risible.

But I note you have silently accepted the hypocrisy involved in your position on lockdown. You have never thought through the nature of your supposed belief in lockdown. You wanted non lockdown. Fair enough but the reality is that this step would have involved criminalizing people – and this group would have been a really large one – who refused travel and mixing. If the government did not criminalize such people, the government would effectively be operating a lockdown.

You need to think about these matters a lot more before you pronounce on them.

Agree, it would have taken extraordinary courage and resilience not to.

That point is not the point I am making. My point is that not locking down would have raised torturously complex legal issues. Would it have been acceptable to criminalize and/or to sack people who refused to travel? Because that reality would have been the flipside of non lockdown – and there is no way around this recognition.

I have always agreed about various bodies’ incompetence and/or corruption. But that issue is a separate one to whether there was, as of March 2020, an alternative to lockdown.

It’s unknowable. The effect of not locking down hard, but in a targeted way would need to be balanced against the adverse effects of hard lockdown by QUALY over a period of a decade or more. As there is no control sample other than Sweden, which is a poor control, but perhaps not completely invalid, we’ll never really know.

It does amuse me so that the ungracious and the incapable here have this fixation about the fact that I like old and quirky public houses. Have done so since I first took a drink in Buddy Carroll’s of Thomastown in 1984. My tastes are exactly the same, nearly 40 years on. So what… I would have thought the same taste is also true of many here and of many middleaged men in general.

I will be in one or two public houses tonight after a book launch. And my points about lockdown and Covid will still be watertight, whatever I do or do not drink.

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Sure it’s no good now and everyone equipped and used to working from home.

Perfectly true about what you say about never ultimately knowing.

My point is less overarching: that there was no credible alternative to British lockdown in March 2023. Same story for Irish lockdown.

Popular with social media junkies, people who follow ffg religiously, twitter sock puppet accounts and journalists for publications that where only still open due to the government funding and ad revenue provided by the HSE telling you to social distancing together to stay safe.

Saying that Johnsons comments are truly awful. Hes a cunt regardless

So now you are withdrawing the lie that you did not state in summer 2020 that we were “done with Covid”. Well and good. You admit now to saying so but wish to claim you then meant exactly the opposite of what the phrase ‘done with Covid’ would normally be felt, semantically, to indicate. Well and not so good.

Whatever understanding I have of whatever is still way in excess of any understanding you possess, because of the sovereign advantages I will always possess as regards understanding anything.

I would also say your average old style pub contains a varied body of opinion and certainly a body of opinion far more healthy and far more educational than right wing thought bubbles. But there you are. I do not want my friends and acquaintances necessarily to agree with me.

This is typically binary and simplistic. The schools should have been open…being a farmer in rural Ireland would have made no difference. Besides farmers continued to farm- cattle markets etc

Using the word ‘binary’ is not improving your case one whit.

You simply do not want to think about what the consequences, explicit and implicit, of non lockdown would have been.

We can see what they would have been in neighbouring US states which took completely different approaches

You are really grasping at gobdaws.

The vast majority of U.K. Covid deaths came following the first wave.

It gets far too many headlines.

Of course there is…but to consider it is to question Malarkeys new religion

https://x.com/doctor_oxford/status/1719703349602234494?s=46

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You cannot deal with my points. Graciousness about inability is always a better look.

What did someone say about the blandishments of easy answers to complex questions…

I admire a lot of Conservative emphases.

The cynical populist right wing guff is beyond risible. Convincing fools of foolishness is hardly a noble activity.

Youre indulging in big long windy posts that all boil down to one sledgehammer of a potato of an epic dull idea. I have absolutely no intention of ‘dealing’ such obstinate turpitude. You’re welcome to your spud of a lockdown.

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