Underrated All Ireland hurling winners 2000-2019

[flattythehurdler]

@anon78624367

Players who went off to a celebration. That happened Niall Moran one day

Reggie blinker was brought on at Ibrox (I was there) and applauded on by both sets of supporters.

[myboyblue]

Fuck sake, didn’t Fogarty win MOTM in at least one All Ireland? Surely thats rating enough.

[johnnysachs]

@Mullach_Ide

…Paul Curran slipped (with a little help). Fanning was excellent in 09 and 10, he looked very leg weary in 2010, particularly in the 1st round of Munster down in the Pairc. Should have been on the Tipp panel alot earlier than 2004, a tough honest hurler.

Think Eoin Larkin listed Paul Curran as one of the toughest markers he has faced.

[FlakeAway]

49:30

Ken McGrath speaks about John Hoyne.

Very good interview.

Ken is salt of the earth.https://youtu.be/Gd7RWrESZi0

[Ashman]

He was also deemed a big enough star for RTEs dancing thing

[Dziekanowski]

@Fagan_ODowd

A players who would come on to groans thread would be great. We had some great ones. Dave Bennett, Eoin McGrath etc

Ray Cosgrove had very much entered this category by 2007.

Pat Gilroy was in this category for most of his career.

[flattythehurdler]

Denis Byrne rated Larry o gorman as the toughest he faced.

[Bandage]

@backinatracksuit

I know he wasn’t at all underrated at the time but I wonder have people forgotten how good Ronan Curran was, close to a team of the 21st century in my opinion

Not that I view everything through a Wexford prism or anything, but Ronan Curran stopped Wexford from winning the drawn All Ireland semi-final in 2003. He was unreal good throughout when others were flagging for periods or completely off colour. Setanta O’hAilpin helped too right enough.

[Elvis_Brandenberg_Kr]

I’d rate Hoyne a lot higher than most voters have so far.

A superb winner of primary possession, whether by catching it or breaking it to a teammate. He was central to the way KK played in those days and a very underrated example of the Cody mantra of “win your own ball”

[kerry1891]

@Julio_Geordio

…d to make it as an inter county hurler but thereafter continued to get his place.From memory he was subbed off a lot (probably because he’d been working like a dog) and the father would always say “about fucking time”. A lot of it was probably unseen work, but he did seem to be fairly useless at times

The “unseen work” theory doesn’t stack up for any player in my opinion!!

I mean at the top level , the games are watched at the venues by 10s of thousands, 100s of thousands on the TV, 30 colleagues on your panel, 30 of the opposition, the matches rewatched over and over again. It would be pretty hard to go through 70mins of a big match contributing handsomely to the cause without it being spotted by a few along the way!

[Aristotle]

A lot of “unseen work” is simply being in the right place to do simple things well. You don’t know you’re missing it until an inferior player is there and not picking up those same positions.

[Fran]

@Big_Dan_Campbell

A very even distribution of votes so far. Surprised at the lack of love for John Hoyne, every forward line could do with a John Hoyne in its ranks.

Hoyne was strong as a horse and is very much an alright sort. I remember playing full forward in a club football match against Graigue Ballycallan many years ago where I got kicked and bet around the place by a seasoned full back for the entire game. I was only a young fella at the time but Hoyne came over to me at the end to offer a few nice words. He was a giant of a man, hands like shovels

[myboyblue]

@kerry1891

@Julio_Geordio

…d to make it as an inter county hurler but thereafter continued to get his place.From memory he was subbed off a lot (probably because he’d been working like a dog) and the father would always say “about fucking time”. A lot of it was probably unseen work, but he did seem to be fairly useless at times

The “unseen work” theory doesn’t stack up for any player in my opinion!!

I mean at the top level , the games are watched at the venues by 10s of thousands, 100s of thousands on the TV, 30 colleagues on your panel, 30 of the opposition, the matches rewatched over and over again. It would be pretty hard to go through 70mins of a big match contributing handsomely to the cause without it being spotted by a few along the way!

Most of these lads are yahoos who are only among for the pints on the train. Few would have the trained eye required to see the mountain of work some lads get through on a field. Some lads just don’t get it.

[Mac]

This is a great thread to read through. Well done @Big_Dan_Campbell