US Election result hub 2016

Just out of curiosity because you do seem to have a good handle on this. Have you lived and worked in the US?

By brother has lived there for 5 years now. he voted for Clinton just because she was a better option than Trump really. Was chatting to him there, he is of the view that the presidency result is of far less consequence than the potential changes the Conservative republicans may now make to the composition of the supreme Court and how that will affect American life for a lot longer than than Trump is in office.

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You really don’t get that your positions are fundamentally incompatible. Trump wants to cut down on legal immigration. Pew Research have estimated that if taken over five decades, Trump’s plan would drastically reduce legal immigration by 30 million.

Both campaigns employed the same thinly concealed racism and xenophobia, although to be fair to the Brexiters they toned down the misogyny and ridiculing of disabled people that Trump went so bigly on. Small victories and all that.

All places are real places, Tim, by the way, seeing as you’ve been strongly implying a distinction.

Can you explain what the difference between a real place and a non-real place is?

Maybe give us a list of geographical examples of both?

Is, say, the southside of Chicago a “real place”?

And how has Mr. Trump connected in any way with the issues affecting such places?

Remember, he’s lost the popular vote so it’s an objective fact that the majority of voters felt that Clinton connected better with “real” issues.

Am I right in saying he lost it by 200k votes out of 119 million, which is less than .1%

He sounds like a barrel of laughs

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He is. We also discussed the all blacks game for about 25 mins which he attended at the weekend and the unseasonably good weather they are having. He cycles a fixie to work as well. You two would get on great

They interviewed some Clinton supporters on the news there and one summed up everything that was wrong with her campaign. In tears and declared " she now understood the anger that people out there had and that they needed to be educated "

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It’s 0.168%.

That’s still a majority of the popular vote, which makes it six times out of seven elections the Republicans have lost it.

That doesn’t equal “connecting with the issues in a way Hillary Clinton didn’t”.

The popular vote isn’t very relevant, as any student of US politics would know. The electoral college was designed by the founding fathers, in their great wisdom, to prevent “tyranny of the majority” or handing too much power to the elites. It has worked remarkably well for over 200 years, and ensures that smaller and rural states have at least some say in government. In reality the outcome is pretty much all the smaller states giving a thumbs down to Washington elites, who have lost any connection with the majority of the states over the past two decades.

As this election once again demonstrates, the country is basically 50:50, and elections are won by the candidate who can bring out their vote across the country. The shocking thing for Democrats to contemplate is how many states switched from blue to red, the price they paid for selecting an incredibly weak candidate.

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a decisive day for democracy, a genuinely great day, exciting times ahead, great days ahead

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Hey Hilary fuck off you snakey aul cunt. The party don’t want you and now the people don’t want you.

Hon Trumpy

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Donald Trump has already done a huge amount of work in Co Clare, he is giong to change lives for the better, he is a visionary, a man who gets things done, just look what he done in Doonbeg

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The intentional growing inequality over the last 25 against the middle and working classes has led to this and the brexit vote.

The political class and the leftist liberal media have been mugged off good and proper the horrible cunts.

Will France be next?

I doubt it…they dont have it in them.

Most of them are lazy union supporters sure…ASTI types.

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they are still not getting it

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It’s very relevant if the claim is being made that Trump connected with more people or such vague notions as that, which aren’t backed up by fact. The vagaries of an electoral system are the vagaries of an electoral system.

Tyranny is something the US right are more than familiar with.

The only thing is with the amount of terrorism they’ve witnessed recently, they could make the shift.

I’m not saying your wrong, but with their electoral system, @anon7035031 is right, it is irrelevant.

I hope Trump and Putin join forces back Assad and rid the middle east of ISIS, moderate and every other so called rebel.

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Well if France made the shift, it would help their cause