US Presidential Election 2016: Sidney's Victory Lap

She’s not well mate. Her campaign are lashing out at news media here for reporting on her 4 minute coughing fit. Censorship of the media won’t fly in the Internet age.

That’s a bit rich though - everything he has said as a private citizen give an insight into his world view and as such are up for consideration.

You’re beginning to sound like @caoimhaoin now.

You have the inside track obviously. :grinning:

One of the candidates has displayed outward symptoms of illness alright, of the mental variety.

It isn’t Clinton.

So, not instigated by the US. Thanks.

Of course. Only somebody has no idea how politics works would think otherwise.

You are making it sound like being a politician is inherently a good thing. Some of the best US presidents were not from a political background, Eisenhower for example. People with a business background tend to make better political leaders than career politicians.

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The U.K. and France would not have intervened without the US. As Obama was initially against intervention that’s what makes Clinton’s hawkish stance so stark.

Like everyone, including politicians, his worldview has likely changed a lot over the years. The point isn’t about changing your mind, it’s the result of the actions you take when you are in a position to influence foreign policy. Nothing Trump said in the past had any influence over foreign policy, unlike Hillary.

I know how the real world works pal, unlike career politicians who have spent a lifetime trying to convince people from their perches of how the real world is, while ironically never having been there.

I’d have thought you’d have considered Eisenhower a Marxist, pal.

90% tax rate, expanding social security, warning of the dangers of the military-industrial complex and all that.

Your previous post establishes that I was right. Thanks again.

Like most Trump supporters, you show very little evidence of knowing how the “real world” (of which politics is a part, by the way, certainly far more real than the world Trump has inhabited for his whole life) works.

Ike was a Republican, and should be judged based on the time he was in office. I am in favor of looking after older people and a progressive tax system, and history has proven him right on the risk of corporatism. I am not in favor of giving welfare to people that is a disincentive to work, but don’t expect you to understand the distinction.

Owen Smith was in no position to have an influence over UK foreign policy in 2003, not having been a politician then.

His lying about his “opposition” to the Iraq War is an issue in the Labour leadership election.

That’s how politics works.

His worldview changing is irrelevant. It is important to understand that change and why.

I’m not sure your point about influencing foreign policy stands up much either. That’s a pretty narrow definition of what voters should scrutinise a candidate on. He’s happy to harp on about his (successful?) business career as some indicator of his suitability for office but yet you claim he should be exempt from examination of other comments and actions because they didn’t influence policy. Seems a little self-serving.

Any bad stuff before April 2015, Trump cannot be questioned on. The order has come from the guru.

I’m not a Trump supporter but keep saying it if it makes you feel good.

People who work for a living, a group I am a member of, know how the real world works, pal. The Trump supporters you mock are actually mostly working class and lower middle class, you know, people who also work for a living.

Keep saying you’re not if it makes happy.

You’re like an 11 year old boy who can’t help looking at a girl in his primary school class and then gets all embarrassed when others tease him for liking her.

I think you’ll find there are a lot of working people who haven’t a clue how the real world works.

He should absolutely be questioned on his business career. In fact, I would say that’s the most relevant by far as it demonstrates his competence (or lack of). We have had an incompetent in the White House for 8 years, this election should be all about competence. Although neither candidate inspires much confidence, a thorough examination of their record is in order. If the election were truly about competence though, the Johnson / Weld ticket would win handily.

Your ad hominem attempts are embarrassing.