US Presidential Election 2016: Sidney's Victory Lap

Fucking boarders, especially those Aussie cunts.

So you were wrong?

Wrong on what?
The only ones talking about deporting 11M people are the liberal media.
Trump said nothing about deporting 11M illegals in his RNC speech last night, his first major speech as a candidate. There is nothing on his website about deporting 11M illegals. We will see what he says during the debates, but my money is on not hearing about deporting 11M illegals.
At this point, I have to assume deporting 11M illegals is not part of his platform, regardless of what the left would like his platform to be.
It’s very easy to roll back things you say on the campaign trail, Trump is catching on to the way politicians operate.

You went to a lot of effort to type all that out and still the sum total of it is the usual cliche bingo, ie. “socialist loons”, “SJWs”, “PC has gone mad”, “liberals screaming about racism”.

Splendid originality and insight.

Excellent, so after your lengthy personal “insight” into my positions was shown to be neither creative or original, you’ve nothing more to add.

Job done for me. :+1:t2:

“Job done for me.” :smile:

Just when it looks like you’ve reached the nadir of clichedom, you lower the bar again and get under it.

You’ll be replying to your own posts next.

Mate, you’re the one who came in to give a few hundred words of supposed insight into me. I am hugely grateful for your support.

But he did say he would do that? When he said he would deport every single undocumented immigrant?

Labane is the type of irish lad who would get the shit kicked out of him by Irish lads living in the US, legal or not. I met cunts like him before, a bit of a clipping is what he needs.

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Gonna answer the question I asked you?

What question. You do not what yo delve into my consideration, its too much for you. Why would i go around chasing ya.

On the campaign trail? Yes, I’ve never denied he said it during the Republican campaign trail. He’s not saying it now though as the candidate, nor does it appear to be part of his platform. Just like Hillary said she was against same sex marriage and now for it (although still lying about her prior position) when she’s running for president.

Trump said literally hundreds of other off the cuff things as well during the campaign, some of which was a lot more ridiculous. His basic message is the same though, secure the border, deport criminals, uphold law and order, renegotiate trade deals, make it worthwhile for corporations to relocate back to the US, etc. The rest is just campaign noise.

Many have tried and failed over the years pal, including a few Cork cunts.

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As long as any of them who engage in S and C work are adequately qualified?

You’re badly rattled when you’re advocating violence against a fellow forumite.

I generally wouldn’t be a fan of the Cato Institute, but even they’re with me on this.

This bitter dynamic is summarized well in a comprehensive survey of the available evidence by the CATO Institute. CATO found that Arizona’s two punitive immigration laws—the 2007 Legal Arizona Workers Act (LAWA) and the 2010 Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act (SB 1070)—have inflicted serious damage on the state’s economy. Specifically, “LAWA’s mandate of E-Verify, a federal electronic employee verification system, and the ‘business death penalty,’ which revokes business licenses for businesses that repeatedly hire unauthorized workers, raise the costs of hiring all employees and create regulatory uncertainty for employers.” As a result, “employers scale back legal hiring, move out of Arizona, or turn to the informal economy to eliminate a paper trail.” On top of that, “SB 1070’s enforcement policies outside of the workplace drove many unauthorized immigrants from the state, lowered the state’s population, hobbled the labor market, accelerated residential property price declines, and exacerbated the Great Recession in Arizona.”

According to the CATO report, “Arizona-style laws are economically destructive and inimical to growth.” That is because “the unauthorized immigrants who left the state took their businesses, money, and spending power with them, which reduced demand for the goods and services that unauthorized immigrants purchased in the state.” Moreover, “Arizona’s immigration laws drove thousands of renters and homeowners from the state, putting downward pressure on residential real-estate prices in the midst of a housing price collapse.”

These findings echo those of a 2011 study from the Center for American Progress (CAP), which estimated that if SB 1070 were successful in its objective of removing all unauthorized immigrants from the state, Arizona would lose $29.5 billion in labor income, $4.2 billion in tax revenues, and 581,000 jobs. Why? Because “when undocumented workers are taken out of the economy, the jobs they support through their labor, consumption, and tax payments disappear as well.” In short, argues the CAP study, the “economic dislocation envisioned by S.B. 1070-type policies runs directly counter to the interests of our nation as we continue to struggle to distance ourselves from the ravages of the Great Recession.”

Your consideration of “no borders” is so moronic it barely deserves a response. Whatever about Tim being special, Western civilization is quite special compared to the alternatives and worth at least trying to protect. For all its flaws, we have driven back the influence of religion (recently in Ireland), we can vote the fuckers out and replace them with new fuckers, women have by and large equal rights, the opportunities are there if people want to avail of them, we have a decent enough legal system, and on and on. Centuries of bloodshed to achieve it and retain it, against seriously powerful entities that wanted to destroy it like the church, the Nazis, the fucking communists with their utopia bullshit.

Emigration is vital and should be encouraged by all democracies. Not at any cost though, and open borders are too high a cost when you have millions of nutters who think people deserve to be killed because they don’t believe in their sky fairy nonsense.

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So you don’t then, cool

Violence is a part of life.

TFK is real life.

Get with program.

I agree with the first line. TFK is closer to Pokemon Go than real life though.

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